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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna
Posted by Curmudgeon on 9/09/07

    You just proved my point.

    On 9/09/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote:
    > To "Curmudgeon"---aka screen name of the moment:
    >
    > No paranoia here!! Just disgust at your juvenile tactics.
    > Don't flatter yourself ATH HOLE!!
    >
    >
    >
    > > Got paranoia?
    >>
    >> On 9/09/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote:
    >>> To "V", aka "Curmudgeon", aka "Bubba", aka "Trailer Park Escapee":
    >>>
    >>> I see you have dropped another notch or two on the intellectual scale by posting some self serving
    >>> drivel allededly written by myself. (We also know you had very little intellectual capacity to begin
    >>> with!!)
    >>> Well, all you've done is made yourself look more foolish--and quite frankly, very, very stupid.
    >>> I now consider you in a category I would call "Aggressive Toyota Hater", or "ATH" for short.
    >>> So, up to now I might have just considered you as a troubled individual with a hangup about Toyota.
    >>> But your latest outburst simply confirms that you are hopelessly stupid, and just an ignorant "ATH HOLE"
    >>> with a big mouth and an attitude!! (Excuse the lithp!)
    >>> So "V", "Curmudgeon", or whoever else you choose to impersonate in the future----obviously you've
    >>> escaped from the wrong trailer park.
    >>> You should seriously consider moving into a psychiatric clinic for remedial therapy--full time!!
    >>> However, it is douptful therapy would do any good!
    >>> Have a nice day.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >>>> I just got in here last week. I don't know what you are talkng about. I could give a rats a$$ about
    >>>> toyota. And no -- my only posts come from me. Don't put words in "my" mouth. You sound very
    >>> intelligent
    >>>> to. Keep up the good work. After grammer school, shot for your GED.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 9/08/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote: (.) v is the nicest guy i ever met on a chat board! Do like he
    >>>> syas, buy American. Let the fruitcakes eat toyotas.
    >>>>> To "V"--Whoever You Are:--
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You seem unusually defensive of posts directed against Toyota when anyone questions their veracity.
    >>>>> It seems to me that many of these posts are artificial, in that when they appear, you are always
    >>>>> present to defend them.
    >>>>> That suggests you are involved in their being here in the first place, and may very well be planting
    >>>>> some, if not all, of them as a result of your perverse animosity toward Toyota.
    >>>>> Most of your comments are quite ignorant and foul mouthed.
    >>>>> If then you are as ugly as you are ignorant, you are a real loser.
    >>>>> Sadly, you don't seem to realize just how stupid you appear.
    >>>>> I suggest you should remain in the trailer park you belong in.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >>>>>> No offense gramps looks like you
    >>>>>> and your friend randolph are
    >>>>>> busted!!!!!! END ..... GAME OVER
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 9/08/07, Grampa.B wrote:
    >>>>>>> Hey Randolph::
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> A word to the wise. That "V"
    >>>>>> doofus is one of the goons who keeps
    >>>>>> putting phony names in
    >>>>>>> Charlene Blake's crapped out
    >>>>>> petition.
    >>>>>>> Pay no attention to the creep.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Grampa.B
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Grampa B. wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Mr/Ms "V":
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Yes "V", I must agree with you.
    >>>>>>>>> The "Made in America"
    >>>>>> competition must be pretty desperate
    >>>>>> to hire goons to post stupid
    >>>>>>>>> remarks like you just did to
    >>>>>> defend BSers when they post lies.
    >>>>>>>>> "Buy American??"
    >>>>>>>>> You've got to be kidding!!
    >>>>>>>>> Stuff produced there now is
    >>>>>> worse than the Chinese crap they
    >>>>>> import because nobody is
    >>>>>>>>> willing to pay the inflated
    >>>>>> prices for "Made In America" things
    >>>>>> any more.
    >>>>>>>>> Truth hurts, doesn't it!!
    >>>>>>>>> BTW, when it comes to "thugs",
    >>>>>> you rate right up there with the
    >>>>>> rest of them!!
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Toyota must be desperate. If
    >>>>>> they
    >>>>>>>>>> have to hire thugs to beat down
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>> truth from people who've been
    >>>>>>>>>> screwed making a purchase of
    >>>>>> their
    >>>>>>>>>> product. If they can't take the
    >>>>>>>>>> heat ... get out of the
    >>>>>> kitchen.
    >>>>>>>>>> Saloution! BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Miss Debbie:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> In spite of your feeble
    >>>>>>>>>> protestations to the contrary,
    >>>>>> your
    >>>>>>>>>> story is still a crock of
    >>>>>>>>>>> meaningless crap.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Anybody can post statements
    >>>>>> like
    >>>>>>>>>> you just did, make ridiculous
    >>>>>> claims
    >>>>>>>>>> about "I Have
    >>>>>>>>>>> Receipts", and then expect
    >>>>>> others
    >>>>>>>>>> to believe them.
    >>>>>>>>>>> That won't make any of such
    >>>>>> crap
    >>>>>>>>>> more beievable.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some will believe your
    >>>>>>>>>> story, but I certainly don't.
    >>>>>>>>>>> If you're so convinced
    >>>>>>>>>> that "receipts" are proof,don't
    >>>>>> send
    >>>>>>>>>> them to me--- post them
    >>>>>>>>>>> here!! It's actually easier to
    >>>>>> do.
    >>>>>>>>>>> And make sure they're not just
    >>>>>>>>>> phonied up ones!!
    >>>>>>>>>>> I await your so
    >>>>>> called "receipts".
    >>>>>>>>>> (LOL!!)
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise your lies are on
    >>>>>> record
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Scott,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> If you like, I can email you
    >>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>> copy of my receipt, dated
    >>>>>> today, for
    >>>>>>>>>> the FOUR door
    >>>>>>>>>>>> handles that I just purchased
    >>>>>>>>>> from the Toyota dealer in my
    >>>>>> area.
    >>>>>>>>>> I ordered them on
    >>>>>>>>>>>> the day I originally posted
    >>>>>> this
    >>>>>>>>>> message and they came in
    >>>>>> today. I
    >>>>>>>>>> paid $335 for the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> four handles and then will
    >>>>>> pay
    >>>>>>>>>> another $400 to my mechanic to
    >>>>>>>>>> install them.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I have no reason to make up a
    >>>>>>>>>> story or facts. I'm just
    >>>>>> stating
    >>>>>>>>>> the truth about my own
    >>>>>>>>>>>> experience and you are very
    >>>>>> rude
    >>>>>>>>>> and presumptuous to call me a
    >>>>>> liar.
    >>>>>>>>>> I have
    >>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no reason to lie
    >>>>>> and,
    >>>>>>>>>> in fact, since I had researched
    >>>>>>>>>> many, many vehicles
    >>>>>>>>>>>> and came to the conclusion
    >>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>>> my Toyota would be a good buy,
    >>>>>> my
    >>>>>>>>>> initial compulsion
    >>>>>>>>>>>> would be to defend my
    >>>>>> decision.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> However, the vehicle speaks
    >>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>> itself and I have no other
    >>>>>> motive
    >>>>>>>>>> than to inform other
    >>>>>>>>>>>> people of the possible
    >>>>>> problems
    >>>>>>>>>> they could face if they make
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>> same decision I did.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I truly hope that if you are
    >>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>> Toyota owner, that your
    >>>>>> experience
    >>>>>>>>>> has been better than
    >>>>>>>>>>>> mine. If so, good for you.
    >>>>>>>>>> Either way, you have no place
    >>>>>>>>>> assuming that mine, or any
    >>>>>>>>>>>> other claims, are untrue.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I can assure you that every
    >>>>>>>>>> single thing I said is true and
    >>>>>>>>>> 100&37; accurate. This is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> the first time I have ever
    >>>>>> posted
    >>>>>>>>>> on a website like this and I
    >>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>> not posted
    >>>>>>>>>>>> anything else on this site or
    >>>>>> any
    >>>>>>>>>> other before. This is just an
    >>>>>>>>>> honest account of my
    >>>>>>>>>>>> own experience. And, by the
    >>>>>> way,
    >>>>>>>>>> I have never received any
    >>>>>>>>>> compensation of any kind
    >>>>>>>>>>>> from Toyota for the problems
    >>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>> have encountered. Although I
    >>>>>>>>>> believe that there are
    >>>>>>>>>>>> some major design flaws that
    >>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>> caused these problems, I
    >>>>>> personally
    >>>>>>>>>> have not
    >>>>>>>>>>>> benefited from any legal
    >>>>>>>>>> proceedings that have taken
    >>>>>> place.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Randolph Scott
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> "I am brand new to this
    >>>>>>>>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>>>>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >>>>>> Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>> vehicle"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> That statement is about as
    >>>>>>>>>> credible as a guarantee of a
    >>>>>> lottery
    >>>>>>>>>> win!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie, you are just
    >>>>>>>>>> another "Kill Toyota" hack!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Your post is just so PHONY!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am brand new to this
    >>>>>>>>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>>>>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >>>>>>>>>> Toyota vehicle.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> After opting for a Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>> instead of a Honda back in
    >>>>>> 2003,
    >>>>>>>>>> when I bought my 2000
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sienna, I have had nothing
    >>>>>> but
    >>>>>>>>>> problems with it. I bought if
    >>>>>> from
    >>>>>>>>>> the dealer as
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "Certified Vehicle".
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. We have a
    >>>>>> mysterious "oil
    >>>>>>>>>> problem" that even our longtime
    >>>>>>>>>> mechanic can't
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure out. The oil just
    >>>>>>>>>> disappears.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Also, all four of the
    >>>>>> door
    >>>>>>>>>> handles on my van are broken.
    >>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>> just got off the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone with the dealer to
    >>>>>> see
    >>>>>>>>>> about fixing them because now
    >>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>>> all four of them
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are broken, only one of
    >>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>>> allows us to even get in the
    >>>>>> van,
    >>>>>>>>>> and then we have to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> climb in and open all the
    >>>>>> other
    >>>>>>>>>> doors from the inside. A
    >>>>>> really
    >>>>>>>>>> annoying side
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect when you are hauling
    >>>>>>>>>> around 4 kids all the time. By
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>> way, it's about
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $300 each to fix them.
    >>>>>> Don't
    >>>>>>>>>> know what I'm going to do yet.
    >>>>>> It's
    >>>>>>>>>> hardly worth
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting $1200 into my 6
    >>>>>> year
    >>>>>>>>>> old van. The one door handle
    >>>>>> we can
    >>>>>>>>>> still open the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> van with is literally in
    >>>>>>>>>> pieces. We've just managed to
    >>>>>> keep
    >>>>>>>>>> it together because
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's the driver's door
    >>>>>> handle
    >>>>>>>>>> and I have banned anyone from
    >>>>>>>>>> opening it but me for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear that it will just fall
    >>>>>>>>>> apart.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. My sending unit went
    >>>>>> out
    >>>>>>>>>> while the van was still under
    >>>>>>>>>> warranty, a very
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unusual problem. Even
    >>>>>> though
    >>>>>>>>>> the dealer admitted it was an
    >>>>>>>>>> unusual problem and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have happened,
    >>>>>> they
    >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't cover it under the
    >>>>>> warranty.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Various small things
    >>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>> broken, like the handle that
    >>>>>> adjusts
    >>>>>>>>>> the back of one
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back bucket seats,
    >>>>>> has
    >>>>>>>>>> broken. All the cup holders
    >>>>>> are
    >>>>>>>>>> very flimsy and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> several of them have
    >>>>>> broken.
    >>>>>>>>>> The plastic back of one of the
    >>>>>> seats
    >>>>>>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously fell off. You
    >>>>>>>>>> can't plug certain things into
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>> lighter sockets or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they will short and blow
    >>>>>> fuses,
    >>>>>>>>>> and multiple other problems.
    >>>>>> All of
    >>>>>>>>>> these
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems have occured
    >>>>>> before
    >>>>>>>>>> the van hit 100,000 miles. The
    >>>>>> gas
    >>>>>>>>>> mileage is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible. I'm lucky to get
    >>>>>> 15
    >>>>>>>>>> miles to the gallon. Not even
    >>>>>> close
    >>>>>>>>>> to their
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims. Also, ever since
    >>>>>> my
    >>>>>>>>>> first flat tire, the out of
    >>>>>> balance
    >>>>>>>>>> light on my dash
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has never gone back off.
    >>>>>> I've
    >>>>>>>>>> had new tires twice since then
    >>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>> it seems nothing
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep the darn thing in
    >>>>>>>>>> balance. The dealer basically
    >>>>>> says,
    >>>>>>>>>> oh well, it's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a light. I wouldn't
    >>>>>> worry
    >>>>>>>>>> about it. Also, the remote key
    >>>>>>>>>> entry never
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked. It hasn't worked
    >>>>>> since
    >>>>>>>>>> I got it.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I have to say is that I
    >>>>>>>>>> will never buy another Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>> vehicle. For a brand
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has been supposedly
    >>>>>> one of
    >>>>>>>>>> the most reliable and best
    >>>>>> built
    >>>>>>>>>> vehicles made, I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been extremely
    >>>>>>>>>> disappointed. I don't feel the
    >>>>>>>>>> least bit sorry for or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about the
    >>>>>> dealer. If
    >>>>>>>>>> others have had the problems
    >>>>>> I've
    >>>>>>>>>> had and can get
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dealer to cover some of
    >>>>>>>>>> their expenses, more power to
    >>>>>> them.
    >>>>>>>>>> I feel that I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid top dollar for a very
    >>>>>> poor
    >>>>>>>>>> performing vehicle and will
    >>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>> stick with Honda
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from now on. I've owned
    >>>>>> many
    >>>>>>>>>> Hondas over the years and never
    >>>>>> had
    >>>>>>>>>> any of these
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/22/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO DOUBT
    >>>>>> THERE
    >>>>>>>>>> ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR PROBLEMS
    >>>>>> AND
    >>>>>>>>>> OTHER THINGS,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO BLAME
    >>>>>>>>>> EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA WITHOUT
    >>>>>> ANY
    >>>>>>>>>> FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT
    >>>>>> WHAT I
    >>>>>>>>>> SAID BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE,
    >>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    >>>>>> THAT
    >>>>>>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    >>>>>> SEE
    >>>>>>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    >>>>>> ONE
    >>>>>>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    >>>>>> CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND
    >>>>>>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    >>>>>> AND DO
    >>>>>>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    >>>>>> HOW
    >>>>>>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    >>>>>> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>>>>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    >>>>>> IT
    >>>>>>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A PHONY, A
    >>>>>> CHARLATAN,
    >>>>>>>>>> AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND
    >>>>>> YOU USE
    >>>>>>>>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THEATRICS ALL THE TIME,
    >>>>>> EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>> TIME.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    >>>>>> YOUR
    >>>>>>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>>>>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO
    >>>>>> SAY
    >>>>>>>>>> SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    >>>>>> MORE YOU
    >>>>>>>>>> SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE
    >>>>>> BLAKE, I
    >>>>>>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    >>>>>> THAT
    >>>>>>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    >>>>>> SEE
    >>>>>>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    >>>>>> ONE
    >>>>>>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    >>>>>> CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO
    >>>>>> GRIND
    >>>>>>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    >>>>>> AND DO
    >>>>>>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    >>>>>> HOW
    >>>>>>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    >>>>>> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>>>>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    >>>>>> IT
    >>>>>>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A CHARLATAN AND A
    >>>>>>>>>> FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE
    >>>>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>>> THEATRICS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR
    >>>>>> EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    >>>>>> YOUR
    >>>>>>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>>>>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
    >>>>>> TO
    >>>>>>>>>> SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    >>>>>> MORE
    >>>>>>>>>> YOU SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OH, ONE OTHER THING, I
    >>>>>> CHOOSE
    >>>>>>>>>> TO USE CAPS AND I WILL CONTINUE
    >>>>>> TO
    >>>>>>>>>> DO SO IN
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPITE OF YOUR CONCERNS
    >>>>>> ABOUT
    >>>>>>>>>> IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU AS A
    >>>>>> YELLING
    >>>>>>>>>> MODE, TOO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Charlene
    >>>>>> Blake
    >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie
    >>>>>> Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFTER SEEING A RESPONSE
    >>>>>> BY
    >>>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE I AM MORE
    >>>>>> SUSPICIOUS
    >>>>>>>>>> THAN EVER
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT THE STORY. IT
    >>>>>> SOUNDS
    >>>>>>>>>> LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you implying that
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>> Toyota owners are conning
    >>>>>> Toyota? I
    >>>>>>>>>> see it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now...poor automaker
    >>>>>> backed
    >>>>>>>>>> into a corner by Toyota owner
    >>>>>>>>>> conspiracy!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FACT: Toyota Sienna
    >>>>>> vans
    >>>>>>>>>> have a problem with STICKING
    >>>>>> sliding
    >>>>>>>>>> door locks.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has not PROPERLY
    >>>>>>>>>> ADDRESSED this matter. Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>> BLAMES the owners!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has NOT issued a
    >>>>>> very
    >>>>>>>>>> important SAFETY RECALL for
    >>>>>> this
    >>>>>>>>>> problem!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota is therefore
    >>>>>> putting
    >>>>>>>>>> the Toyota owners and their
    >>>>>>>>>> families,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly small
    >>>>>> children,
    >>>>>>>>>> at risk.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, if you want an
    >>>>>> open,
    >>>>>>>>>> public debate about this
    >>>>>> problem, I
    >>>>>>>>>> am happy to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oblige. You are using
    >>>>>> all
    >>>>>>>>>> capital letters in a "yelling"
    >>>>>>>>>> mode. This is not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary and is
    >>>>>> actually
    >>>>>>>>>> offensive to many.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue is does Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>> have a problem with the
    >>>>>> *sticking
    >>>>>>>>>> sliding doors* or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. If you can
    >>>>>> disprove
    >>>>>>>>>> the facts that the Toyota
    >>>>>> owners are
    >>>>>>>>>> providing,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then please do so. The
    >>>>>>>>>> dealerships have admitted a
    >>>>>> problem
    >>>>>>>>>> with this for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YEARS according to many
    >>>>>>>>>> internet-posting Toyota owners.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face it. Help the
    >>>>>> Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>> owners! The manufacturer
    >>>>>> doesn't
    >>>>>>>>>> need your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection, does it?
    >>>>>> OR,
    >>>>>>>>>> does it?????
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota Owners Unite for
    >>>>>>>>>> Resolution

     
     

 
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