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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna
Posted by v on 9/09/07

    Mudge! We must be kind to the handicapped. Margareet has smelly feet. and can't play golf. What would she do at
    the ath hole??? So where can i get me some of this paranoia & aka?? I'm refiguring the brews ... ski In the out
    house in da trailer park.


    On 9/09/07, Curmudgeon wrote:
    > You just proved my point.
    >
    > On 9/09/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote:
    >> To "Curmudgeon"---aka screen name of the moment:
    >>
    >> No paranoia here!! Just disgust at your juvenile tactics.
    >> Don't flatter yourself ATH HOLE!!
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> > Got paranoia?
    >>>
    >>> On 9/09/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote:
    >>>> To "V", aka "Curmudgeon", aka "Bubba", aka "Trailer Park Escapee":
    >>>>
    >>>> I see you have dropped another notch or two on the intellectual scale by posting some self serving
    >>>> drivel allededly written by myself. (We also know you had very little intellectual capacity to begin
    >>>> with!!)
    >>>> Well, all you've done is made yourself look more foolish--and quite frankly, very, very stupid.
    >>>> I now consider you in a category I would call "Aggressive Toyota Hater", or "ATH" for short.
    >>>> So, up to now I might have just considered you as a troubled individual with a hangup about Toyota.
    >>>> But your latest outburst simply confirms that you are hopelessly stupid, and just an ignorant "ATH HOLE"
    >>>> with a big mouth and an attitude!! (Excuse the lithp!)
    >>>> So "V", "Curmudgeon", or whoever else you choose to impersonate in the future----obviously you've
    >>>> escaped from the wrong trailer park.
    >>>> You should seriously consider moving into a psychiatric clinic for remedial therapy--full time!!
    >>>> However, it is douptful therapy would do any good!
    >>>> Have a nice day.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >>>>> I just got in here last week. I don't know what you are talkng about. I could give a rats a$$ about
    >>>>> toyota. And no -- my only posts come from me. Don't put words in "my" mouth. You sound very
    >>>> intelligent
    >>>>> to. Keep up the good work. After grammer school, shot for your GED.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 9/08/07, Margaret St. Clair wrote: (.) v is the nicest guy i ever met on a chat board! Do like he
    >>>>> syas, buy American. Let the fruitcakes eat toyotas.
    >>>>>> To "V"--Whoever You Are:--
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You seem unusually defensive of posts directed against Toyota when anyone questions their veracity.
    >>>>>> It seems to me that many of these posts are artificial, in that when they appear, you are always
    >>>>>> present to defend them.
    >>>>>> That suggests you are involved in their being here in the first place, and may very well be planting
    >>>>>> some, if not all, of them as a result of your perverse animosity toward Toyota.
    >>>>>> Most of your comments are quite ignorant and foul mouthed.
    >>>>>> If then you are as ugly as you are ignorant, you are a real loser.
    >>>>>> Sadly, you don't seem to realize just how stupid you appear.
    >>>>>> I suggest you should remain in the trailer park you belong in.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >>>>>>> No offense gramps looks like you
    >>>>>>> and your friend randolph are
    >>>>>>> busted!!!!!! END ..... GAME OVER
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Grampa.B wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Hey Randolph::
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> A word to the wise. That "V"
    >>>>>>> doofus is one of the goons who keeps
    >>>>>>> putting phony names in
    >>>>>>>> Charlene Blake's crapped out
    >>>>>>> petition.
    >>>>>>>> Pay no attention to the creep.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Grampa.B
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Grampa B. wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> Mr/Ms "V":
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Yes "V", I must agree with you.
    >>>>>>>>>> The "Made in America"
    >>>>>>> competition must be pretty desperate
    >>>>>>> to hire goons to post stupid
    >>>>>>>>>> remarks like you just did to
    >>>>>>> defend BSers when they post lies.
    >>>>>>>>>> "Buy American??"
    >>>>>>>>>> You've got to be kidding!!
    >>>>>>>>>> Stuff produced there now is
    >>>>>>> worse than the Chinese crap they
    >>>>>>> import because nobody is
    >>>>>>>>>> willing to pay the inflated
    >>>>>>> prices for "Made In America" things
    >>>>>>> any more.
    >>>>>>>>>> Truth hurts, doesn't it!!
    >>>>>>>>>> BTW, when it comes to "thugs",
    >>>>>>> you rate right up there with the
    >>>>>>> rest of them!!
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Toyota must be desperate. If
    >>>>>>> they
    >>>>>>>>>>> have to hire thugs to beat down
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>> truth from people who've been
    >>>>>>>>>>> screwed making a purchase of
    >>>>>>> their
    >>>>>>>>>>> product. If they can't take the
    >>>>>>>>>>> heat ... get out of the
    >>>>>>> kitchen.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Saloution! BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph Scott
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Miss Debbie:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> In spite of your feeble
    >>>>>>>>>>> protestations to the contrary,
    >>>>>>> your
    >>>>>>>>>>> story is still a crock of
    >>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless crap.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody can post statements
    >>>>>>> like
    >>>>>>>>>>> you just did, make ridiculous
    >>>>>>> claims
    >>>>>>>>>>> about "I Have
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Receipts", and then expect
    >>>>>>> others
    >>>>>>>>>>> to believe them.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> That won't make any of such
    >>>>>>> crap
    >>>>>>>>>>> more beievable.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some will believe your
    >>>>>>>>>>> story, but I certainly don't.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> If you're so convinced
    >>>>>>>>>>> that "receipts" are proof,don't
    >>>>>>> send
    >>>>>>>>>>> them to me--- post them
    >>>>>>>>>>>> here!! It's actually easier to
    >>>>>>> do.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> And make sure they're not just
    >>>>>>>>>>> phonied up ones!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I await your so
    >>>>>>> called "receipts".
    >>>>>>>>>>> (LOL!!)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise your lies are on
    >>>>>>> record
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Scott,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you like, I can email you
    >>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>> copy of my receipt, dated
    >>>>>>> today, for
    >>>>>>>>>>> the FOUR door
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> handles that I just purchased
    >>>>>>>>>>> from the Toyota dealer in my
    >>>>>>> area.
    >>>>>>>>>>> I ordered them on
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the day I originally posted
    >>>>>>> this
    >>>>>>>>>>> message and they came in
    >>>>>>> today. I
    >>>>>>>>>>> paid $335 for the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> four handles and then will
    >>>>>>> pay
    >>>>>>>>>>> another $400 to my mechanic to
    >>>>>>>>>>> install them.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no reason to make up a
    >>>>>>>>>>> story or facts. I'm just
    >>>>>>> stating
    >>>>>>>>>>> the truth about my own
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> experience and you are very
    >>>>>>> rude
    >>>>>>>>>>> and presumptuous to call me a
    >>>>>>> liar.
    >>>>>>>>>>> I have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no reason to lie
    >>>>>>> and,
    >>>>>>>>>>> in fact, since I had researched
    >>>>>>>>>>> many, many vehicles
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> and came to the conclusion
    >>>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>>>> my Toyota would be a good buy,
    >>>>>>> my
    >>>>>>>>>>> initial compulsion
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> would be to defend my
    >>>>>>> decision.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> However, the vehicle speaks
    >>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>> itself and I have no other
    >>>>>>> motive
    >>>>>>>>>>> than to inform other
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> people of the possible
    >>>>>>> problems
    >>>>>>>>>>> they could face if they make
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>> same decision I did.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I truly hope that if you are
    >>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>> Toyota owner, that your
    >>>>>>> experience
    >>>>>>>>>>> has been better than
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> mine. If so, good for you.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Either way, you have no place
    >>>>>>>>>>> assuming that mine, or any
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> other claims, are untrue.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can assure you that every
    >>>>>>>>>>> single thing I said is true and
    >>>>>>>>>>> 100&37; accurate. This is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the first time I have ever
    >>>>>>> posted
    >>>>>>>>>>> on a website like this and I
    >>>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>>> not posted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else on this site or
    >>>>>>> any
    >>>>>>>>>>> other before. This is just an
    >>>>>>>>>>> honest account of my
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> own experience. And, by the
    >>>>>>> way,
    >>>>>>>>>>> I have never received any
    >>>>>>>>>>> compensation of any kind
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> from Toyota for the problems
    >>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>> have encountered. Although I
    >>>>>>>>>>> believe that there are
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> some major design flaws that
    >>>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>>> caused these problems, I
    >>>>>>> personally
    >>>>>>>>>>> have not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> benefited from any legal
    >>>>>>>>>>> proceedings that have taken
    >>>>>>> place.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Randolph Scott
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I am brand new to this
    >>>>>>>>>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>>>>>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >>>>>>> Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>> vehicle"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That statement is about as
    >>>>>>>>>>> credible as a guarantee of a
    >>>>>>> lottery
    >>>>>>>>>>> win!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie, you are just
    >>>>>>>>>>> another "Kill Toyota" hack!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your post is just so PHONY!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Debbie wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am brand new to this
    >>>>>>>>>>> conversation but just thought I
    >>>>>>>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about my personal
    >>>>>>>>>>> Toyota vehicle.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After opting for a Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>> instead of a Honda back in
    >>>>>>> 2003,
    >>>>>>>>>>> when I bought my 2000
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sienna, I have had nothing
    >>>>>>> but
    >>>>>>>>>>> problems with it. I bought if
    >>>>>>> from
    >>>>>>>>>>> the dealer as
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "Certified Vehicle".
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. We have a
    >>>>>>> mysterious "oil
    >>>>>>>>>>> problem" that even our longtime
    >>>>>>>>>>> mechanic can't
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure out. The oil just
    >>>>>>>>>>> disappears.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Also, all four of the
    >>>>>>> door
    >>>>>>>>>>> handles on my van are broken.
    >>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>> just got off the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone with the dealer to
    >>>>>>> see
    >>>>>>>>>>> about fixing them because now
    >>>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>>>> all four of them
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are broken, only one of
    >>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>>>> allows us to even get in the
    >>>>>>> van,
    >>>>>>>>>>> and then we have to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climb in and open all the
    >>>>>>> other
    >>>>>>>>>>> doors from the inside. A
    >>>>>>> really
    >>>>>>>>>>> annoying side
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect when you are hauling
    >>>>>>>>>>> around 4 kids all the time. By
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>> way, it's about
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $300 each to fix them.
    >>>>>>> Don't
    >>>>>>>>>>> know what I'm going to do yet.
    >>>>>>> It's
    >>>>>>>>>>> hardly worth
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting $1200 into my 6
    >>>>>>> year
    >>>>>>>>>>> old van. The one door handle
    >>>>>>> we can
    >>>>>>>>>>> still open the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> van with is literally in
    >>>>>>>>>>> pieces. We've just managed to
    >>>>>>> keep
    >>>>>>>>>>> it together because
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's the driver's door
    >>>>>>> handle
    >>>>>>>>>>> and I have banned anyone from
    >>>>>>>>>>> opening it but me for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear that it will just fall
    >>>>>>>>>>> apart.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. My sending unit went
    >>>>>>> out
    >>>>>>>>>>> while the van was still under
    >>>>>>>>>>> warranty, a very
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unusual problem. Even
    >>>>>>> though
    >>>>>>>>>>> the dealer admitted it was an
    >>>>>>>>>>> unusual problem and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have happened,
    >>>>>>> they
    >>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't cover it under the
    >>>>>>> warranty.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Various small things
    >>>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>>> broken, like the handle that
    >>>>>>> adjusts
    >>>>>>>>>>> the back of one
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back bucket seats,
    >>>>>>> has
    >>>>>>>>>>> broken. All the cup holders
    >>>>>>> are
    >>>>>>>>>>> very flimsy and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several of them have
    >>>>>>> broken.
    >>>>>>>>>>> The plastic back of one of the
    >>>>>>> seats
    >>>>>>>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously fell off. You
    >>>>>>>>>>> can't plug certain things into
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>> lighter sockets or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they will short and blow
    >>>>>>> fuses,
    >>>>>>>>>>> and multiple other problems.
    >>>>>>> All of
    >>>>>>>>>>> these
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems have occured
    >>>>>>> before
    >>>>>>>>>>> the van hit 100,000 miles. The
    >>>>>>> gas
    >>>>>>>>>>> mileage is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible. I'm lucky to get
    >>>>>>> 15
    >>>>>>>>>>> miles to the gallon. Not even
    >>>>>>> close
    >>>>>>>>>>> to their
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims. Also, ever since
    >>>>>>> my
    >>>>>>>>>>> first flat tire, the out of
    >>>>>>> balance
    >>>>>>>>>>> light on my dash
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has never gone back off.
    >>>>>>> I've
    >>>>>>>>>>> had new tires twice since then
    >>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>> it seems nothing
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep the darn thing in
    >>>>>>>>>>> balance. The dealer basically
    >>>>>>> says,
    >>>>>>>>>>> oh well, it's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a light. I wouldn't
    >>>>>>> worry
    >>>>>>>>>>> about it. Also, the remote key
    >>>>>>>>>>> entry never
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked. It hasn't worked
    >>>>>>> since
    >>>>>>>>>>> I got it.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I have to say is that I
    >>>>>>>>>>> will never buy another Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>> vehicle. For a brand
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has been supposedly
    >>>>>>> one of
    >>>>>>>>>>> the most reliable and best
    >>>>>>> built
    >>>>>>>>>>> vehicles made, I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been extremely
    >>>>>>>>>>> disappointed. I don't feel the
    >>>>>>>>>>> least bit sorry for or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about the
    >>>>>>> dealer. If
    >>>>>>>>>>> others have had the problems
    >>>>>>> I've
    >>>>>>>>>>> had and can get
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dealer to cover some of
    >>>>>>>>>>> their expenses, more power to
    >>>>>>> them.
    >>>>>>>>>>> I feel that I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid top dollar for a very
    >>>>>>> poor
    >>>>>>>>>>> performing vehicle and will
    >>>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>>> stick with Honda
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from now on. I've owned
    >>>>>>> many
    >>>>>>>>>>> Hondas over the years and never
    >>>>>>> had
    >>>>>>>>>>> any of these
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/22/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO DOUBT
    >>>>>>> THERE
    >>>>>>>>>>> ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR PROBLEMS
    >>>>>>> AND
    >>>>>>>>>>> OTHER THINGS,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO BLAME
    >>>>>>>>>>> EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA WITHOUT
    >>>>>>> ANY
    >>>>>>>>>>> FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT
    >>>>>>> WHAT I
    >>>>>>>>>>> SAID BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE BLAKE,
    >>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    >>>>>>> THAT
    >>>>>>>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    >>>>>>> SEE
    >>>>>>>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    >>>>>>> ONE
    >>>>>>>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    >>>>>>> CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO GRIND
    >>>>>>>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    >>>>>>> AND DO
    >>>>>>>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    >>>>>>> HOW
    >>>>>>>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    >>>>>>> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>>>>>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    >>>>>>> IT
    >>>>>>>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A PHONY, A
    >>>>>>> CHARLATAN,
    >>>>>>>>>>> AND A FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND
    >>>>>>> YOU USE
    >>>>>>>>>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THEATRICS ALL THE TIME,
    >>>>>>> EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>>> TIME.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    >>>>>>> YOUR
    >>>>>>>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>>>>>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO
    >>>>>>> SAY
    >>>>>>>>>>> SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    >>>>>>> MORE YOU
    >>>>>>>>>>> SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU CHARLENE
    >>>>>>> BLAKE, I
    >>>>>>>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT IMPLYING
    >>>>>>> THAT
    >>>>>>>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT THE WAY I
    >>>>>>> SEE
    >>>>>>>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT THE ONLY
    >>>>>>> ONE
    >>>>>>>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS YOU
    >>>>>>> CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX TO
    >>>>>>> GRIND
    >>>>>>>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU WILL SAY
    >>>>>>> AND DO
    >>>>>>>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO MATTER
    >>>>>>> HOW
    >>>>>>>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND DISHONEST IT
    >>>>>>> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE STAGING THIS
    >>>>>>>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN RESPONDING TO
    >>>>>>> IT
    >>>>>>>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A CHARLATAN AND A
    >>>>>>>>>>> FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND YOU USE
    >>>>>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>>>> THEATRICS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA FOR
    >>>>>>> EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED WITH
    >>>>>>> YOUR
    >>>>>>>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS, AND NEVER
    >>>>>>>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
    >>>>>>> TO
    >>>>>>>>>>> SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND THE
    >>>>>>> MORE
    >>>>>>>>>>> YOU SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OH, ONE OTHER THING, I
    >>>>>>> CHOOSE
    >>>>>>>>>>> TO USE CAPS AND I WILL CONTINUE
    >>>>>>> TO
    >>>>>>>>>>> DO SO IN
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPITE OF YOUR CONCERNS
    >>>>>>> ABOUT
    >>>>>>>>>>> IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU AS A
    >>>>>>> YELLING
    >>>>>>>>>>> MODE, TOO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Charlene
    >>>>>>> Blake
    >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie
    >>>>>>> Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFTER SEEING A RESPONSE
    >>>>>>> BY
    >>>>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE I AM MORE
    >>>>>>> SUSPICIOUS
    >>>>>>>>>>> THAN EVER
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT THE STORY. IT
    >>>>>>> SOUNDS
    >>>>>>>>>>> LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you implying that
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>> Toyota owners are conning
    >>>>>>> Toyota? I
    >>>>>>>>>>> see it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now...poor automaker
    >>>>>>> backed
    >>>>>>>>>>> into a corner by Toyota owner
    >>>>>>>>>>> conspiracy!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FACT: Toyota Sienna
    >>>>>>> vans
    >>>>>>>>>>> have a problem with STICKING
    >>>>>>> sliding
    >>>>>>>>>>> door locks.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has not PROPERLY
    >>>>>>>>>>> ADDRESSED this matter. Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>> BLAMES the owners!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has NOT issued a
    >>>>>>> very
    >>>>>>>>>>> important SAFETY RECALL for
    >>>>>>> this
    >>>>>>>>>>> problem!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota is therefore
    >>>>>>> putting
    >>>>>>>>>>> the Toyota owners and their
    >>>>>>>>>>> families,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly small
    >>>>>>> children,
    >>>>>>>>>>> at risk.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, if you want an
    >>>>>>> open,
    >>>>>>>>>>> public debate about this
    >>>>>>> problem, I
    >>>>>>>>>>> am happy to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oblige. You are using
    >>>>>>> all
    >>>>>>>>>>> capital letters in a "yelling"
    >>>>>>>>>>> mode. This is not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary and is
    >>>>>>> actually
    >>>>>>>>>>> offensive to many.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue is does Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>> have a problem with the
    >>>>>>> *sticking
    >>>>>>>>>>> sliding doors* or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. If you can
    >>>>>>> disprove
    >>>>>>>>>>> the facts that the Toyota
    >>>>>>> owners are
    >>>>>>>>>>> providing,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then please do so. The
    >>>>>>>>>>> dealerships have admitted a
    >>>>>>> problem
    >>>>>>>>>>> with this for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YEARS according to many
    >>>>>>>>>>> internet-posting Toyota owners.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face it. Help the
    >>>>>>> Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>> owners! The manufacturer
    >>>>>>> doesn't
    >>>>>>>>>>> need your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection, does it?
    >>>>>>> OR,
    >>>>>>>>>>> does it?????
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota Owners Unite for
    >>>>>>>>>>> Resolution

     
     

 
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