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Re: Sticking Sliding Doors in the Toyota Sienna*v*
Posted by v on 9/09/07

    LMAO!!!!


    On 9/09/07, Curmudgeon wrote:
    > Maybe that explains her
    frustrations---she couldn't get past
    that darn windmill on the ath hole.
    >
    > On 9/09/07, v wrote:
    >> Mudge! We must be kind to the
    handicapped. Margareet has smelly
    feet. and can't play golf. What would
    she do at
    >> the ath hole??? So where can i get
    me some of this paranoia & aka?? I'm
    refiguring the brews ... ski In the
    out
    >> house in da trailer park.
    >>
    >>
    >> On 9/09/07, Curmudgeon wrote:
    >>> You just proved my point.
    >>>
    >>> On 9/09/07, Margaret St. Clair
    wrote:
    >>>> To "Curmudgeon"---aka screen
    name of the moment:
    >>>>
    >>>> No paranoia here!! Just disgust
    at your juvenile tactics.
    >>>> Don't flatter yourself ATH
    HOLE!!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> > Got paranoia?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 9/09/07, Margaret St. Clair
    wrote:
    >>>>>> To "V", aka "Curmudgeon",
    aka "Bubba", aka "Trailer Park
    Escapee":
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I see you have dropped another
    notch or two on the intellectual
    scale by posting some self serving
    >>>>>> drivel allededly written by
    myself. (We also know you had very
    little intellectual capacity to begin
    >>>>>> with!!)
    >>>>>> Well, all you've done is made
    yourself look more foolish--and quite
    frankly, very, very stupid.
    >>>>>> I now consider you in a
    category I would call "Aggressive
    Toyota Hater", or "ATH" for short.
    >>>>>> So, up to now I might have
    just considered you as a troubled
    individual with a hangup about Toyota.
    >>>>>> But your latest outburst
    simply confirms that you are
    hopelessly stupid, and just an
    ignorant "ATH HOLE"
    >>>>>> with a big mouth and an
    attitude!! (Excuse the lithp!)
    >>>>>> So "V", "Curmudgeon", or
    whoever else you choose to
    impersonate in the future----
    obviously you've
    >>>>>> escaped from the wrong trailer
    park.
    >>>>>> You should seriously consider
    moving into a psychiatric clinic for
    remedial therapy--full time!!
    >>>>>> However, it is douptful
    therapy would do any good!
    >>>>>> Have a nice day.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >>>>>>> I just got in here last week.
    I don't know what you are talkng
    about. I could give a rats a$$ about
    >>>>>>> toyota. And no -- my only
    posts come from me. Don't put words
    in "my" mouth. You sound very
    >>>>>> intelligent
    >>>>>>> to. Keep up the good work.
    After grammer school, shot for your
    GED.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Margaret St.
    Clair wrote: (.) v is the nicest guy
    i ever met on a chat board! Do like
    he
    >>>>>>> syas, buy American. Let the
    fruitcakes eat toyotas.
    >>>>>>>> To "V"--Whoever You Are:--
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> You seem unusually defensive
    of posts directed against Toyota when
    anyone questions their veracity.
    >>>>>>>> It seems to me that many of
    these posts are artificial, in that
    when they appear, you are always
    >>>>>>>> present to defend them.
    >>>>>>>> That suggests you are
    involved in their being here in the
    first place, and may very well be
    planting
    >>>>>>>> some, if not all, of them as
    a result of your perverse animosity
    toward Toyota.
    >>>>>>>> Most of your comments are
    quite ignorant and foul mouthed.
    >>>>>>>> If then you are as ugly as
    you are ignorant, you are a real
    loser.
    >>>>>>>> Sadly, you don't seem to
    realize just how stupid you appear.
    >>>>>>>> I suggest you should remain
    in the trailer park you belong in.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, v wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> No offense gramps looks
    like you
    >>>>>>>>> and your friend randolph
    are
    >>>>>>>>> busted!!!!!! END ..... GAME
    OVER
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Grampa.B wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> Hey Randolph::
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> A word to the wise.
    That "V"
    >>>>>>>>> doofus is one of the goons
    who keeps
    >>>>>>>>> putting phony names in
    >>>>>>>>>> Charlene Blake's crapped
    out
    >>>>>>>>> petition.
    >>>>>>>>>> Pay no attention to the
    creep.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Grampa.B
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Grampa B.
    wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph
    Scott wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Mr/Ms "V":
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes "V", I must agree
    with you.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> The "Made in America"
    >>>>>>>>> competition must be pretty
    desperate
    >>>>>>>>> to hire goons to post
    stupid
    >>>>>>>>>>>> remarks like you just
    did to
    >>>>>>>>> defend BSers when they post
    lies.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> "Buy American??"
    >>>>>>>>>>>> You've got to be
    kidding!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Stuff produced there now
    is
    >>>>>>>>> worse than the Chinese crap
    they
    >>>>>>>>> import because nobody is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> willing to pay the
    inflated
    >>>>>>>>> prices for "Made In
    America" things
    >>>>>>>>> any more.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Truth hurts, doesn't it!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, when it comes
    to "thugs",
    >>>>>>>>> you rate right up there
    with the
    >>>>>>>>> rest of them!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota must be
    desperate. If
    >>>>>>>>> they
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to hire thugs to
    beat down
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> truth from people
    who've been
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> screwed making a
    purchase of
    >>>>>>>>> their
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> product. If they can't
    take the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> heat ... get out of the
    >>>>>>>>> kitchen.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saloution! BUY
    AMERICAN!!!!!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/08/07, Randolph
    Scott
    >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Miss Debbie:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In spite of your
    feeble
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> protestations to the
    contrary,
    >>>>>>>>> your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> story is still a crock
    of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless crap.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody can post
    statements
    >>>>>>>>> like
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> you just did, make
    ridiculous
    >>>>>>>>> claims
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> about "I Have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Receipts", and then
    expect
    >>>>>>>>> others
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> to believe them.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That won't make any of
    such
    >>>>>>>>> crap
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> more beievable.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some will
    believe your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> story, but I certainly
    don't.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're so convinced
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> that "receipts" are
    proof,don't
    >>>>>>>>> send
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> them to me--- post them
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> here!! It's actually
    easier to
    >>>>>>>>> do.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And make sure they're
    not just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> phonied up ones!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I await your so
    >>>>>>>>> called "receipts".
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> (LOL!!)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise your lies
    are on
    >>>>>>>>> record
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/07, Debbie
    wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Scott,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you like, I can
    email you
    >>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> copy of my receipt,
    dated
    >>>>>>>>> today, for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the FOUR door
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handles that I just
    purchased
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the Toyota dealer
    in my
    >>>>>>>>> area.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered them on
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the day I originally
    posted
    >>>>>>>>> this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> message and they came
    in
    >>>>>>>>> today. I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> paid $335 for the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> four handles and then
    will
    >>>>>>>>> pay
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> another $400 to my
    mechanic to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> install them.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no reason to
    make up a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> story or facts. I'm
    just
    >>>>>>>>> stating
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth about my own
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience and you
    are very
    >>>>>>>>> rude
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> and presumptuous to
    call me a
    >>>>>>>>> liar.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no reason
    to lie
    >>>>>>>>> and,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact, since I had
    researched
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, many vehicles
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and came to the
    conclusion
    >>>>>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> my Toyota would be a
    good buy,
    >>>>>>>>> my
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> initial compulsion
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be to defend my
    >>>>>>>>> decision.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, the vehicle
    speaks
    >>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> itself and I have no
    other
    >>>>>>>>> motive
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> than to inform other
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of the
    possible
    >>>>>>>>> problems
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> they could face if they
    make
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> same decision I did.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I truly hope that if
    you are
    >>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota owner, that your
    >>>>>>>>> experience
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> has been better than
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine. If so, good
    for you.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Either way, you have no
    place
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming that mine, or
    any
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other claims, are
    untrue.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can assure you that
    every
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> single thing I said is
    true and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> 100&37; accurate. This
    is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first time I have
    ever
    >>>>>>>>> posted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> on a website like this
    and I
    >>>>>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> not posted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else on this
    site or
    >>>>>>>>> any
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> other before. This is
    just an
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> honest account of my
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own experience. And,
    by the
    >>>>>>>>> way,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never received
    any
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> compensation of any
    kind
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Toyota for the
    problems
    >>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> have encountered.
    Although I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that there are
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some major design
    flaws that
    >>>>>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> caused these problems,
    I
    >>>>>>>>> personally
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> have not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefited from any
    legal
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> proceedings that have
    taken
    >>>>>>>>> place.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Randolph
    Scott
    >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I am brand new to
    this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation but just
    thought I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about my
    personal
    >>>>>>>>> Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicle"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That statement is
    about as
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> credible as a guarantee
    of a
    >>>>>>>>> lottery
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> win!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie, you are just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> another "Kill Toyota"
    hack!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your post is just so
    PHONY!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/05/07, Debbie
    wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am brand new to
    this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation but just
    thought I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> would give an objective
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about my
    personal
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota vehicle.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After opting for a
    Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of a Honda back
    in
    >>>>>>>>> 2003,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> when I bought my 2000
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sienna, I have had
    nothing
    >>>>>>>>> but
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> problems with it. I
    bought if
    >>>>>>>>> from
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the dealer as
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "Certified
    Vehicle".
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. We have a
    >>>>>>>>> mysterious "oil
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem" that even our
    longtime
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanic can't
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure out. The oil
    just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> disappears.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Also, all four
    of the
    >>>>>>>>> door
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> handles on my van are
    broken.
    >>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> just got off the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone with the
    dealer to
    >>>>>>>>> see
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> about fixing them
    because now
    >>>>>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> all four of them
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are broken, only
    one of
    >>>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> allows us to even get
    in the
    >>>>>>>>> van,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> and then we have to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climb in and open
    all the
    >>>>>>>>> other
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> doors from the inside.
    A
    >>>>>>>>> really
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> annoying side
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect when you are
    hauling
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 kids all the
    time. By
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> way, it's about
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $300 each to fix
    them.
    >>>>>>>>> Don't
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> know what I'm going to
    do yet.
    >>>>>>>>> It's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> hardly worth
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting $1200 into
    my 6
    >>>>>>>>> year
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> old van. The one door
    handle
    >>>>>>>>> we can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> still open the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> van with is
    literally in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> pieces. We've just
    managed to
    >>>>>>>>> keep
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> it together because
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's the driver's
    door
    >>>>>>>>> handle
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> and I have banned
    anyone from
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> opening it but me for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear that it will
    just fall
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> apart.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. My sending unit
    went
    >>>>>>>>> out
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> while the van was still
    under
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> warranty, a very
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unusual problem.
    Even
    >>>>>>>>> though
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the dealer admitted it
    was an
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> unusual problem and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have
    happened,
    >>>>>>>>> they
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't cover it under
    the
    >>>>>>>>> warranty.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Various small
    things
    >>>>>>>>> have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> broken, like the handle
    that
    >>>>>>>>> adjusts
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the back of one
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back bucket
    seats,
    >>>>>>>>> has
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. All the cup
    holders
    >>>>>>>>> are
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> very flimsy and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several of them
    have
    >>>>>>>>> broken.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> The plastic back of one
    of the
    >>>>>>>>> seats
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously fell
    off. You
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't plug certain
    things into
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> lighter sockets or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they will short and
    blow
    >>>>>>>>> fuses,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> and multiple other
    problems.
    >>>>>>>>> All of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> these
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems have
    occured
    >>>>>>>>> before
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the van hit 100,000
    miles. The
    >>>>>>>>> gas
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> mileage is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible. I'm
    lucky to get
    >>>>>>>>> 15
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> miles to the gallon.
    Not even
    >>>>>>>>> close
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> to their
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims. Also, ever
    since
    >>>>>>>>> my
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> first flat tire, the
    out of
    >>>>>>>>> balance
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> light on my dash
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has never gone back
    off.
    >>>>>>>>> I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> had new tires twice
    since then
    >>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> it seems nothing
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep the darn
    thing in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> balance. The dealer
    basically
    >>>>>>>>> says,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> oh well, it's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a light. I
    wouldn't
    >>>>>>>>> worry
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> about it. Also, the
    remote key
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> entry never
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked. It hasn't
    worked
    >>>>>>>>> since
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I got it.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I have to say
    is that I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> will never buy another
    Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicle. For a brand
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has been
    supposedly
    >>>>>>>>> one of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the most reliable and
    best
    >>>>>>>>> built
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicles made, I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been extremely
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> disappointed. I don't
    feel the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> least bit sorry for or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about the
    >>>>>>>>> dealer. If
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> others have had the
    problems
    >>>>>>>>> I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> had and can get
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dealer to cover
    some of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> their expenses, more
    power to
    >>>>>>>>> them.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel that I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid top dollar for
    a very
    >>>>>>>>> poor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> performing vehicle and
    will
    >>>>>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> stick with Honda
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from now on. I've
    owned
    >>>>>>>>> many
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hondas over the years
    and never
    >>>>>>>>> had
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> any of these
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/22/07, Connie
    Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE, NO
    DOUBT
    >>>>>>>>> THERE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ARE PEOPLE WITH DOOR
    PROBLEMS
    >>>>>>>>> AND
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> OTHER THINGS,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT YOU CHOOSE TO
    BLAME
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> EVERYTHING ON TOYOTA
    WITHOUT
    >>>>>>>>> ANY
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> FACTS TO BACK UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SO I AM GOING TO
    REPEAT
    >>>>>>>>> WHAT I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> SAID BEFORE BECAUSE
    IT'S TRUE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU
    CHARLENE BLAKE,
    >>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING
    ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT
    IMPLYING
    >>>>>>>>> THAT
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING
    TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT
    THE WAY I
    >>>>>>>>> SEE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT
    THE ONLY
    >>>>>>>>> ONE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS
    YOU
    >>>>>>>>> CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX
    TO GRIND
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU
    WILL SAY
    >>>>>>>>> AND DO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO
    MATTER
    >>>>>>>>> HOW
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND
    DISHONEST IT
    >>>>>>>>> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE
    STAGING THIS
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN
    RESPONDING TO
    >>>>>>>>> IT
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A PHONY, A
    >>>>>>>>> CHARLATAN,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> AND A FAKER AS I SEE
    IT, AND
    >>>>>>>>> YOU USE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THEATRICS ALL THE
    TIME,
    >>>>>>>>> EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> TIME.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA
    FOR EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED
    WITH
    >>>>>>>>> YOUR
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS,
    AND NEVER
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER
    POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING YOU
    HAVE TO
    >>>>>>>>> SAY
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> SOUNDS FISHY TO ME, AND
    THE
    >>>>>>>>> MORE YOU
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07, Connie
    Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNLIKE YOU
    CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>>> BLAKE, I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> AM NOT IMPLYING
    ANYTHING.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESPECIALLY NOT
    IMPLYING
    >>>>>>>>> THAT
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> OWNERS ARE CONNING
    TOYOTA.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM CALLING IT
    THE WAY I
    >>>>>>>>> SEE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND AS I SEE IT
    THE ONLY
    >>>>>>>>> ONE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> DOING ANY CONNING IS
    YOU
    >>>>>>>>> CHARLENE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> BLAKE. I THINK
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU HAVE A BIG AX
    TO
    >>>>>>>>> GRIND
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> WITH TOYOTA AND YOU
    WILL SAY
    >>>>>>>>> AND DO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ANYTHING TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAKE IT KNOWN NO
    MATTER
    >>>>>>>>> HOW
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> UNDERHANDED AND
    DISHONEST IT
    >>>>>>>>> MAY BE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINGS LIKE
    STAGING THIS
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> EPISODE AND THEN
    RESPONDING TO
    >>>>>>>>> IT
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ARE YOUR STANDARD
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OF PERFORMANCE.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A
    CHARLATAN AND A
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> FAKER AS I SEE IT, AND
    YOU USE
    >>>>>>>>> CHEAP
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> THEATRICS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU BLAME TOYOTA
    FOR
    >>>>>>>>> EVERY
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> PROBLEM THAT IS POSTED
    WITH
    >>>>>>>>> YOUR
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> TAWDRY LITTLE DOG
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AND PONY SHOWS,
    AND NEVER
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> CONSIDER OTHER
    POSSIBILITIES.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW EVERYTHING
    YOU HAVE
    >>>>>>>>> TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> SAY SOUNDS FISHY TO ME,
    AND THE
    >>>>>>>>> MORE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU SAY, THE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WORSE IT GETS.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OH, ONE OTHER
    THING, I
    >>>>>>>>> CHOOSE
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> TO USE CAPS AND I WILL
    CONTINUE
    >>>>>>>>> TO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> DO SO IN
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPITE OF YOUR
    CONCERNS
    >>>>>>>>> ABOUT
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> IT. IF IT LOOKS TO YOU
    AS A
    >>>>>>>>> YELLING
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> MODE, TOO
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BAD. DEAL WITH IT.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07,
    Charlene
    >>>>>>>>> Blake
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/07,
    Connie
    >>>>>>>>> Chapman
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFTER SEEING A
    RESPONSE
    >>>>>>>>> BY
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> CHARLENE BLAKE I AM
    MORE
    >>>>>>>>> SUSPICIOUS
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> THAN EVER
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT THE
    STORY. IT
    >>>>>>>>> SOUNDS
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> LIKE A SET UP.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you implying
    that
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota owners are
    conning
    >>>>>>>>> Toyota? I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> see it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now...poor
    automaker
    >>>>>>>>> backed
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> into a corner by Toyota
    owner
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> conspiracy!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FACT: Toyota
    Sienna
    >>>>>>>>> vans
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a problem with
    STICKING
    >>>>>>>>> sliding
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> door locks.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has not
    PROPERLY
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ADDRESSED this matter.
    Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> BLAMES the owners!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota has NOT
    issued a
    >>>>>>>>> very
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> important SAFETY RECALL
    for
    >>>>>>>>> this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota is
    therefore
    >>>>>>>>> putting
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Toyota owners and
    their
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> families,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly
    small
    >>>>>>>>> children,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> at risk.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, if you want
    an
    >>>>>>>>> open,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> public debate about
    this
    >>>>>>>>> problem, I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> am happy to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oblige. You are
    using
    >>>>>>>>> all
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> capital letters in
    a "yelling"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> mode. This is not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary and is
    >>>>>>>>> actually
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> offensive to many.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue is
    does Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a problem with the
    >>>>>>>>> *sticking
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> sliding doors* or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. If you can
    >>>>>>>>> disprove
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the facts that the
    Toyota
    >>>>>>>>> owners are
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> providing,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then please do
    so. The
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> dealerships have
    admitted a
    >>>>>>>>> problem
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> with this for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YEARS according
    to many
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> internet-posting Toyota
    owners.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face it. Help
    the
    >>>>>>>>> Toyota
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> owners! The
    manufacturer
    >>>>>>>>> doesn't
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> need your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection, does
    it?
    >>>>>>>>> OR,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> does it?????
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlene Blake
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cblake@erols.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toyota Owners
    Unite for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Resolution

     
     

 
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