Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise
Posted by Dante on 3/28/06
I admire the optimism of both Jiff and rrr to predict the future of bankruptcy. What do we really know? The practice area has now dropped off a cliff in terms of business. Will this trend continue? The U.S. household savings rate is the lowest ever. Housing prices are the highest ever, and oil is now over $60 per barrel. Add into that an aging population, foreseeably massive tax increases both at the federal and state level, and the financial picture darkens. Short-term, our business looks bad; over the longer haul, one has to think that there's hope. I am told that the Chinese character for "crisis" and "opportunity" is the same. We are diversifying over the short-term, and keeping an eye on the long-term opportunity for consumer liquidations that is sure to arise in the deepening morass that is our national economy. On 3/28/06, Jiff wrote: > I admire your optimism, but I just don't see it that way. The > problem I see with your analysis is that you assume debtors are > actually going to defend against collection suits. In reality, > they don't, not in large enough numbers to make it a viable > practice add on. As far as independent paralegals, they never > really took hold in my area, and as far as easy, cheap work, > attorneys were more than happy to do it. Client comes to me and > offers $400-500 for about 2 hours (at most) of my time for a > simple 7, and I take it happily over and over again. Well, I > used to, under the old law. I share the sentiment voiced by > others on this board that bankruptcy's glory days are behind > us. It was the easiest money I ever made, now, back to those > pesky divorce clients! > On 3/28/06, rrr wrote: >> On 3/28/06, Jiff wrote: >>> >>> Read these thoroughly. Bankruptcy filings are "rising", but >>> from virtually nothing. The current and projected caseload >>> for the next twelve months will not support the current >>> number of bankruptcy attorneys. 2/3 of the bankruptcy >>> attorneys will go out of business in the next year, in my >>> view. >> >> I think its going to push the Independent Paralegals out of >> Bankruptcy business since they were the ones doing most of the >> fast & easy petitions (at least they were the ones here in >> California). I've already seen it in the local advertising. >> Not a Paralegal advertising for BK at all. The Attorney >> who "occassionally" did a bankrutpcy will no longer do them, >> and the mills will have to change their methods, but the core >> Debtor-Consumer Attorneys are going to come out ahead. And we >> haven't even started to see the fallout from the slow down in >> real estate and consequences from aggressive mortgage lending >> practices. When the foreclosures start to hit in a stagnant >> market, it will be time to feed again. Not to mention there >> will be more Collections Defense Litigation from those who >> can't Chapter 7 because of the Means Test and lack the >> financial stability to Chapter 13, and have no foreclosure to >> prevent. This new law may actually be great news for Debtor- >> side Practitioners after we shake off the immediate mental >> shock and adapt to the change. Time to be patient and time to >> be visionary, the greedy shylocks might have just made us all >> rich.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by FordhamGrad.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by rrr.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by Dante.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by Jiff.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by rrr.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by Jiff.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by Dante.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by FordhamGrad.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/28/06, by Jiff.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/29/06, by rrr.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/29/06, by jiff.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/30/06, by Dante.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/31/06, by FordhamGrad.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/31/06, by FordhamGrad.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/31/06, by Jiff.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/31/06, by Guru.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 3/31/06, by L.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 4/02/06, by v.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 4/02/06, by Mr. Blue.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 4/02/06, by Mr. Blue.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 4/02/06, by Guru.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 4/02/06, by L.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 4/02/06, by Guru.
- Re: Bankruptcy Filings Rise, 4/02/06, by v.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy), 4/03/06, by Mr. Blue.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by The Zephyr.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by L.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by L.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by Guru.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by v.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by L.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by Mr. Blue.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by Mr. Blue.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by Mr. Blue.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by L.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/03/06, by v.
- Re: Interconnectedness of Employment Markets (was Bankruptcy, 4/06/06, by randy.
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