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    Re: Educational Arms Race

    Posted by Raja Ankenish on 5/10/06

    L, this doesn't make sense. They need more education to be
    effective at what? If you want to be an accountant, study
    accounting. What's the need for all this extra fluff work,
    other than to create jobs for professors? The problem with
    College, is that it is too "liberal" in the sense that it
    teaches too much. Teach everything and they will have
    skills in nothing.

    My idea for College is that it last 2 years, with only say 5-
    6 majors available: Accounting, Economics, Chemistry,
    Biology, Mathematics, and Physics. Leave computer science
    for the technical schools. Leave hostory, poli sci,
    English, and all that other B.A. crap for the public library
    where it belongs.

    Within each major, there are basic courses in persuasive
    writing, effective speaking and negotiating, and a
    requirement that Spanish be learned in basic proficiency
    before being allowed to graduate.

    Each major is concentrated on heavily from the beginning,
    all the way until graduation. Within each major are related
    field courses that are mandatory. For example, Accounting
    and Economics majors must take courses in Finance and Math.
    The three science majors must take basic courses in the
    other sciences, as well as math.

    If you want to pursue other fields, like finance or advanced
    math, you have that option upon graduation, to go to the
    Master's level.

    Under this system, broke, bored, and useless "students"
    don't find themselves taking courses in "The History of Zen"
    or "The Role of Women in Business" or "Societal Problems"
    or "The History of African American Economists"
    or "Underwater Basketweaving and the Native American." You
    learn this stuff in the public library or buying a book on
    Ebay.

    This is an idea of how the system MUST change, or Indians
    and Chinese will one day lord over the American. Compare an
    Indian or Chinese student with their American peer, and your
    faith in our future to compete will be badly shaken.

    On 5/10/06, L wrote:
    > Blue mentioned the term "educational arms race" to
    > describe the rising educational credentials of
    > professionals, etc. Actually, I think professionals in
    > the 21st century need far more education than ever to be
    > effective. Assuming resources are no objection, I think
    > the following would be an ideal post-secondary
    > curriculum. I list the subject with the number of course
    > units (1 c.u. =3 college semester hours.)
    >
    > history 6; philosophy 4; literature 6; religion 2
    > poliSci 4, psych 4, math 6, physics 4, chemistry 4,
    > biology 4, sociology 2, statistics 4, Computers/IT 8;
    > anthro 2; accounting 10, finance 8, General Management 10,
    > Law 4 years, including tax law courses, Chinese 10,
    > Spanish 8, Japanese 6, engineering 4, Leadership 2,
    > Communication 4, automechanics/life skills 4, etc.
    >
    > I actually think that colleges should be about 10 years
    > long to adequately accommodate all these courses.
    >
    > Blue, you never answered my questions: what courses did
    > you take in high school and college? did you get enough
    > grounding in the liberal arts?

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • Educational Arms Race, 5/10/06, by L.
  • Re: Educational Arms Race, 5/10/06, by Raja Ankenish.
  • Re: Educational Arms Race, 5/11/06, by Mr. Blue.
  • Re: Educational Arms Race, 5/14/06, by v.


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