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    Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law.....

    Posted by Ronald on 5/15/06

    What kind of work do you get hired to do? Are you in a small
    rural community? How much is your yearly profit from law
    practice?

    Thank you in advance.

    On 5/15/06, JF wrote:
    > You misunderstood my post. I am not chasing the people who
    > already have filed. I never said I would send out a "nice
    > letter". I said that I am now holding myself out to the
    > director of my Chamber of Commerce as a business lawyer,
    > meaning that when new lawyers call her for a referral, she
    > will give my name. I will then advise the new business as to
    > typical start-up issues such as: forming an LLC, corporation,
    > or partnership agreement; reviewing and negotiating commercial
    > leases; assisting with commercial financing and related UCC
    > issues; preparation and review of business acquisition
    > documents when necessary; assisting with permitting; filing of
    > business certificates; etc. Yes, most of these businesses will
    > not survive, but hopefully the ones who do will remain clients.
    >
    > What other name do you write posts under?
    >
    >
    > On 5/15/06, Jimmy wrote:
    >> JF,
    >>
    >> Exactly what kind of business do you do for new startups?
    >> They have already established their entity, hence the public
    >> filing, and they are usually broke and undercapitalized,
    >> hence the fact that they will go out of business, in all
    >> likelihood (Your words). So, what do you do? Handle the
    >> traffic ticket if the business owner speeds? I'm asking,
    >> because several years ago, I did exactly what you have
    >> recommended. I sent out a nice letter. Maybe 2 ot of 100
    >> called me, and they were looking for free advice, as usual.
    >>
    >> On 5/15/06, JF wrote:
    >>> For better or for worse, I continue to occasionally write
    >>> posts that may actually help those drowning solos actually
    >>> build their practices. I have been practicing real estate
    >>> law for a number of years, but the downturn in the real
    >>> estate market has forced me to expand into other areas. I
    >>> have had no problem obtaining new clients and new types of
    >>> work, and I do this by fishing where the fish are. For
    >>> example, in the past, I have suggested that solos hand
    >>> out "Have You Made a Will?" brochures to their existing
    >>> clients. A great way to get your client to come in for
    >>> some estate planning. When the new bankruptcy law went
    >>> into effect, many bankruptcy lawyers dropped that area of
    >>> practice. I spent an afternoon on the phone calling these
    >>> lawyers, telling them that I am practicing bankruptcy law,
    >>> and now a number of them have used me as their referral
    >>> attorney. I originally built my real estate practice by
    >>> opening my office next door to a large, busy real estate
    >>> broker office. The referrals came quickly and
    >>> consistently. Again, fishing where the fish are. All this
    >>> has been supplemented by bar lawyer referral programs.
    >>>
    >>> My newest marketing endeavor targets business entities,
    >>> who (in my opinion) ultimately make the best clients. I
    >>> had ignored business clients in the past (with the
    >>> exception of real estate developers) largely because I did
    >>> not believe there were many new businesses in my area, and
    >>> existing businesses typically already have counsel. Then I
    >>> checked the new business certificate filings in the city
    >>> that I practice in and found that there are many new
    >>> business filings every month. I have been active in the
    >>> local Chamber of Commerce for over a year, and I am the
    >>> only lawyer who gives them my time. So I simply called the
    >>> Chamber director, who confirmed that, yes, a good amount
    >>> of new business people call her for lawyer referrals, and
    >>> from now on she will certainly give them my name (since
    >>> I'm the only lawyer in town who bothers with them). I had
    >>> my first client within a week. Granted, many of these new
    >>> businesses will fail, but I will receive the start-up work
    >>> and retain those that succeed.
    >>>
    >>> Virtually all solos know how to practice law. The hard
    >>> part is obtaining clients, which seems to be the problem
    >>> people have here. The work is out there; you just have to
    >>> reach out and grab it. It's all about relationship
    >>> building, making yourself visible in the community, and
    >>> letting people know what you do.
    >>>

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  • Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/15/06, by JF.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/15/06, by Jimmy.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/15/06, by JF.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/15/06, by Ronald.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/15/06, by JF.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/15/06, by Hardy Parkerson, Atty..
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/16/06, by JF.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/16/06, by Ronald.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/16/06, by JF.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/16/06, by joe nathan.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/17/06, by JF.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/17/06, by RJon@HowToMakeItRain.com.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/17/06, by Honorable Gentleman.
  • Re: Meanwhile, for those of you who practice law....., 5/17/06, by The Zephyr.
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