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    Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ...

    Posted by Lisa on 10/17/05

    To: Law Student ...thanks

    Wow !! I was very impressed while reading your post :)

    Are you sure you are not an Attorney? instead of a Law Student?

    What branch of Law are you taking?

    Thanks for all of your information, very impressive and
    informative

    By agressive I meant to say, one that is just that, agressive,
    professional, knowledgeable and doesn't know how to lose a
    case...because he will do everything and almost anything
    within the Law to win his case ...

    I will contact www.calbar.org ...a.s.a.p. because I will
    pursue further, even though my chances of even having a case
    are very slim

    If you ever have any questions about Real Estate Law, feel
    free to ask me and I will help you too :) my e-mail is on my
    first thread

    Thanks I really appreciate your effort and time posting an
    answer for me

    Lisa :)


    On 10/17/05, Student "Not an Attorney" wrote:
    > Hi Lisa,
    >
    > You are right to be careful who you listen to on this
    board.
    > Many people here don't have a clue about the law, and they
    > feel free to post here anyway. I doubt many people who post
    > responses here are lawyers at all. I am not an lawyer
    > either, but as a law student I would like to take the
    > opportunity to analyze your problem, that is in no way
    advise
    > though, and should not be taken as such. You can do what
    you
    > want with the analysis, it is purely academic. As for
    > finding a good personal injury lawyer I suggest you contact
    > the California State Bar. www.calbar.org and get a referral
    > there.
    >
    > Analysis of the problem presented here (the mountain your
    > lawyer will have to climb to prove your case, if you have
    > one):
    >
    > Negligence is defined as an act or omission to act which
    > falls below the standard of reasonable care established by
    > law.
    >
    > To establish a case of negligent the plaintiff must prove
    > 1. There was a volitional act or omission to act
    > 2. There was a duty of care owed by defendant
    > 3. There was a breach of the duty to care owed by defendant
    > 4. Actual Cause (cause in fact)
    > 5. Proximate Cause (legal cause)
    > 6. Damages
    >
    > In the facts you presented the Airline employee may have
    > fallen into the category of omission to act (failure to act
    > where an act as a reasonable person was required). How do
    we
    > establish that there is a failure to act? First we look at
    > was there a duty required on the part of the Airline or
    > someone else? This can be proven by statute or by custom.
    > In other words one will have to look at the California
    > Legislation (assuming this happened in California) for a
    > statute that requires an Airline to secure overhead baggage
    > compartments, or if the duty is owed by persons who store
    > belongings in the overhead compartment. A statue could make
    > it negligence per se (an inference of negligence) or merely
    > evidence of negligence depending on how California treats
    > this subject (again assuming this happened in California).
    > Absent a statute it would need to be proven by custom that
    > other Airlines ensure that overhead baggage storage
    > compartments are secured by the Airline employee, or persons
    > who store property in the storage compartment are the ones
    > required to secure the overhead storage compartment. This
    > would mean expert testimony would be required. It would need
    > to be proven that a reasonable person owes a duty of care in
    > this situation. Depending on what the Statute or Custom is
    > in this situation will make the duty owed or not. Courts
    > will also look at the duty owed to consider what is
    the "zone
    > of danger" or area where duty is owed to protect against
    > foreseeable risk of harm to foreseeable persons within a
    > certain area. This is the most common and accepted view in
    > the courts known as the Cordozo view. In the facts
    presented
    > here there is foreseeable risk of harm to persons seated
    > under an overhead baggage storage compartment from falling
    > baggage or other items stored there, and persons seated
    there
    > has met a foreseeable plaintiff test. The facts presented
    > here lend to a duty of care owed to protect persons from
    risk
    > of being harmed by falling baggage or other items stored
    > overhead in an airplane, and a reasonable person could
    > protect against this harm by securing the storage
    > compartment. The question is who is the duty owed by the
    > Airline or Persons who store belongings overhead?
    >
    > Next after establishing a duty of care owed it must be
    > established that there was a breach of the duty owed. The
    > breach would be established by looking at the benefit vs.
    the
    > utility of securing or not securing the overhead
    > compartment. Since there is very little cost in ensuring
    the
    > overhead compartment is secured vs. the risk of harm that
    > could be caused by items falling out of the overhead
    > compartment, so a reasonable person would have secured the
    > overhead compartment, and since this duty of care was owed
    > and there was a failure to do so there has been breach
    > established. The question still remains who owes the duty
    of
    > care the Airline or the person who stored the item overhead.
    >
    > Next after establishing a duty and a breach of duty there
    > must be a showing that the injury or harm is a result of the
    > falling item from the overhead compartment. It is the
    burden
    > of the plaintiff to show that his/her injury is a direct
    > result of the act or failure to act where required. The
    > plaintiff must prove that headaches and shoulder pain is a
    > result of this incident. Also the courts will look at the
    > Cordozo view here again, and the plaintiff must have been in
    > the "zone of danger" in this case it is apparent that is
    > true. The plaintiff must establish that but for the
    overhead
    > compartment was not secured the plaintiff would not have
    > suffered injury. At this point another doctrine of law may
    > be considered which is "res ispsa loquitur" (the thing
    speaks
    > for itself). With this doctrine there are three things to
    > consider i)this type of incident does not ordinarily occur
    > absent negligence ii)the defendant had exclusive control of
    > the injury causing instrument iii)physical injury must be
    > present. The facts here do not support this doctrine and
    > therefore the burden of showing all the elements of
    > negligence will be taken by the plaintiff here. This is
    > because the defendant did not have exclusive control of the
    > instrument that caused the injury (the unsecured overhead
    > baggage compartment). The fact is other persons have free
    > access to the compartment, and it cannot be exclusively
    > attributed to the Airline or Any Person who stores
    belongings
    > there.
    >
    > Next there must be a showing of proximate cause (legal
    > cause). The issue here is generally foreseeability. Was
    > risk of harm foreseeable, the results foreseeable, and a
    > foreseeable plaintiff. Results are almost always
    > foreseeable. Intervening causes will be considered here as
    > well. In other words was another thing was introduced that
    > attributes to the results. Defendants are liable for
    > foreseeable intervening causes such as medical malpractice,
    > subsequent disease, negligent rescue etc. And a defendant
    > takes his victim as they find them. In other words if you
    > had a condition that was present before the incident that
    was
    > worsened or only came into the light because of the
    incident,
    > such as a tendency to have migraine headaches that was not
    > known but became aggravated because of the incident the
    > defendant will be liable for the results. Defendants are
    not
    > generally liable for bizarre results though. In this case
    > harm because of a falling object from an overhead storage
    > compartment in an airplane is not bizarre. It is
    > foreseeable, the results are foreseeable, and the plaintiff
    > is foreseeable so proximate cause has been established in
    > this fact pattern to either the Airline or the person who
    > stored equipment in the overhead compartment (depending on
    > who actually has the duty owed).
    >
    > Finally there must be damages. These damages are past and
    > future medical bills, past and future pain and suffering,
    > past and future loss of wages or income. There is no
    > punitive damages unless the conduct of the defendant was
    > gross negligence, wanton or reckless in nature, which it is
    > not here. Add those damages up and there is a potential for
    > a case of negligence. Keep in mind that attorney fees,
    > expert witness fees and court costs are not recoverable, and
    > plaintiffs must bear those costs. Damages are not offset to
    > the defendant by collateral sources (insurance or other
    > benefits conferred on the plaintiff).
    >
    > Lest we forget the defenses of the defendant.
    >
    > 1. Contributory Negligence in Contributory Negligence
    > Jurisdictions (no recovery if plaintiff even 1&37; at fault)
    > 2. Comparative Negligence in Comparative Negligence
    > Jurisdictions (recovery sometimes limited to defendants
    fault)
    > 3. Assumption of risk.
    >
    > These are the defenses that the defendant will raise, not to
    > mention the risk/utility factor as mentioned above.
    >
    > Now, the question is did you assume a risk by sitting in the
    > seat below an overhead storage compartment? First of all
    you
    > have to know and appreciate the risk or should have
    > reasonably known about a risk in order to assume one, and
    > chose to encounter the risk voluntarily. And as a plaintiff
    > you have a duty to mitigate damages as well. This is the
    > defense that will be asserted in your case along with
    > comparative or contributory negligence whatever applies. I
    > don't think this defense fails here, because it is very
    > common practice for people who sit down in an airplane to
    > check the overhead compartment above them to make sure it is
    > safe. I would not doubt that there are warnings posted all
    > over the place in the plane as well. Therefore, your case
    no
    > matter how greatly it was presented will likely be either
    > dismissed or reduced to a point that it provides very little
    > of a worthy legal argument if any. The only rebuttal you
    have
    > is the "last clear chance" doctrine which basically means
    > that defendant had the last clear chance to protect against
    > the risk of harm, and the plaintiff did not. But, I doubt
    > that would be the issue here since either you the Airline or
    > the Person who stored the belongings depending on who has
    the
    > duty could have prevented the risk.
    >
    > Then weigh whether the case should go forward or not. So
    for
    > example if plaintiff had past medical bills and medicine of
    > $1,500, future medical bills of $1,500, lost wages for 7
    days
    > $1,000 future lost wages of 7 days for future medical visits
    > $1,000, past pain and suffering of $500 and future pain and
    > suffering of $500 totaling $6,000, and attorney will cost
    > $2,400 (40&37;) expert testimony will cost $2,600 and court
    > costs will be $1,500 then all the plaintiff will be left
    > paying $500 out of pocket to even bring a case up it would
    > not be worth the effort. These numbers are completely
    > produced out of the air, and do not represent what this case
    > would cost. It is only here for example of what must be
    > considered.
    >
    > Another thing to consider is that you would be treated as an
    > invitee in this situation since the airplane is a business
    > purpose vessel and you most certainly paid for the airfare.
    > As an invitee the owner of the chattel (airplane in this
    > case) has a duty to inspect for dangerous instruments, and a
    > duty to warn or make safe. I would be assuming here, but I
    > assume that airplanes warn against falling objects from the
    > overhead compartment, and the risks involved. The airline
    > has met their duty in this case if they did provide warnings
    > and inspections, and the first issue of duty has been
    striken
    > from the negligence in the first place and without a breach
    > of duty there is no case. What you are trying to assert is
    > that the airline has a duty not only to inspect and warn but
    > to make safe, which it is an either or situation not both
    > (warn or make safe). Now, on the other hand if there is no
    > warning then they must make safe. Go back to the airplane
    > and check for a warning, or somewhere a warning documented.
    > I bet you will find one.
    >
    > Bottom line based on the facts I have analyzed you don't
    have
    > a case for negligence like OO pointed out. Unless you can
    > prove that the device that secures the compartment was
    faulty
    > (highly unlikely you could prove that, since you presented
    > facts that suggest it was a failure to secure the
    compartment
    > that caused the injury in the first place) But, feel free to
    > discuss it with an attorney from referral of the State Bar
    > (www.calbar.org) By aggressive do you mean that you expect
    > allot of money from this because you plan to sue the big
    > airline company? Don't expect too much, you will be limited
    > to your damages if you even have a case, which I doubt you
    do.
    >
    > On 10/15/05, Lisa wrote:
    >> About 10 months ago I was injured inside an airplane,
    >> coming back from Vegas to 0ntario California
    >>
    >> I was already seating and the plane was about to take off
    >> when suddenly a piece of luggage landed on my head and
    >> into my right shoulder, I don't know I may have a fracture
    >> on my sculp, because I been having tremendous very painful
    >> migrane headaches and I can't sleep and also can't sleep
    >> on my right side because of the terrible pain on my right
    >> shoulder due the injury
    >>
    >> Yes I did brought it to the attention to one of the flight
    >> attendants when it happened and all he said was: it's not
    >> the Airline's fault but the passengers negligence to lock
    >> the locker after he put his luggage inside, and he went on
    >> and brought me 2 aspirins and a can of soda for the pain
    >>
    >> Well I know for a fact that flight attendants have to
    >> check that each locker is been locked, before the planes
    >> take off, obviously this particular locker was open
    >>
    >> I know the Statue of Limitations is 2 years in this State
    >>
    >> Are there any sharp, agressive Lawyers that want to take
    >> my case? or can you recomend one? I am in Riverside County
    >> in California, please e-mail me at: luvtostudy@yahoo.com
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >> Lisa :)

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/15/05, by Lisa.
  • Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/15/05, by 00.
  • Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/15/05, by Lisa.
  • Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/15/05, by 00.
  • Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/17/05, by Student "Not an Attorney".
  • Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/17/05, by Lisa.
  • Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/18/05, by Student "Not an Attorney".
  • Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/18/05, by Lisa.


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