Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ...
Posted by Lisa on 10/17/05
To: Law Student ...thanks Wow !! I was very impressed while reading your post :) Are you sure you are not an Attorney? instead of a Law Student? What branch of Law are you taking? Thanks for all of your information, very impressive and informative By agressive I meant to say, one that is just that, agressive, professional, knowledgeable and doesn't know how to lose a case...because he will do everything and almost anything within the Law to win his case ... I will contact www.calbar.org ...a.s.a.p. because I will pursue further, even though my chances of even having a case are very slim If you ever have any questions about Real Estate Law, feel free to ask me and I will help you too :) my e-mail is on my first thread Thanks I really appreciate your effort and time posting an answer for me Lisa :) On 10/17/05, Student "Not an Attorney" wrote: > Hi Lisa, > > You are right to be careful who you listen to on this board. > Many people here don't have a clue about the law, and they > feel free to post here anyway. I doubt many people who post > responses here are lawyers at all. I am not an lawyer > either, but as a law student I would like to take the > opportunity to analyze your problem, that is in no way advise > though, and should not be taken as such. You can do what you > want with the analysis, it is purely academic. As for > finding a good personal injury lawyer I suggest you contact > the California State Bar. www.calbar.org and get a referral > there. > > Analysis of the problem presented here (the mountain your > lawyer will have to climb to prove your case, if you have > one): > > Negligence is defined as an act or omission to act which > falls below the standard of reasonable care established by > law. > > To establish a case of negligent the plaintiff must prove > 1. There was a volitional act or omission to act > 2. There was a duty of care owed by defendant > 3. There was a breach of the duty to care owed by defendant > 4. Actual Cause (cause in fact) > 5. Proximate Cause (legal cause) > 6. Damages > > In the facts you presented the Airline employee may have > fallen into the category of omission to act (failure to act > where an act as a reasonable person was required). How do we > establish that there is a failure to act? First we look at > was there a duty required on the part of the Airline or > someone else? This can be proven by statute or by custom. > In other words one will have to look at the California > Legislation (assuming this happened in California) for a > statute that requires an Airline to secure overhead baggage > compartments, or if the duty is owed by persons who store > belongings in the overhead compartment. A statue could make > it negligence per se (an inference of negligence) or merely > evidence of negligence depending on how California treats > this subject (again assuming this happened in California). > Absent a statute it would need to be proven by custom that > other Airlines ensure that overhead baggage storage > compartments are secured by the Airline employee, or persons > who store property in the storage compartment are the ones > required to secure the overhead storage compartment. This > would mean expert testimony would be required. It would need > to be proven that a reasonable person owes a duty of care in > this situation. Depending on what the Statute or Custom is > in this situation will make the duty owed or not. Courts > will also look at the duty owed to consider what is the "zone > of danger" or area where duty is owed to protect against > foreseeable risk of harm to foreseeable persons within a > certain area. This is the most common and accepted view in > the courts known as the Cordozo view. In the facts presented > here there is foreseeable risk of harm to persons seated > under an overhead baggage storage compartment from falling > baggage or other items stored there, and persons seated there > has met a foreseeable plaintiff test. The facts presented > here lend to a duty of care owed to protect persons from risk > of being harmed by falling baggage or other items stored > overhead in an airplane, and a reasonable person could > protect against this harm by securing the storage > compartment. The question is who is the duty owed by the > Airline or Persons who store belongings overhead? > > Next after establishing a duty of care owed it must be > established that there was a breach of the duty owed. The > breach would be established by looking at the benefit vs. the > utility of securing or not securing the overhead > compartment. Since there is very little cost in ensuring the > overhead compartment is secured vs. the risk of harm that > could be caused by items falling out of the overhead > compartment, so a reasonable person would have secured the > overhead compartment, and since this duty of care was owed > and there was a failure to do so there has been breach > established. The question still remains who owes the duty of > care the Airline or the person who stored the item overhead. > > Next after establishing a duty and a breach of duty there > must be a showing that the injury or harm is a result of the > falling item from the overhead compartment. It is the burden > of the plaintiff to show that his/her injury is a direct > result of the act or failure to act where required. The > plaintiff must prove that headaches and shoulder pain is a > result of this incident. Also the courts will look at the > Cordozo view here again, and the plaintiff must have been in > the "zone of danger" in this case it is apparent that is > true. The plaintiff must establish that but for the overhead > compartment was not secured the plaintiff would not have > suffered injury. At this point another doctrine of law may > be considered which is "res ispsa loquitur" (the thing speaks > for itself). With this doctrine there are three things to > consider i)this type of incident does not ordinarily occur > absent negligence ii)the defendant had exclusive control of > the injury causing instrument iii)physical injury must be > present. The facts here do not support this doctrine and > therefore the burden of showing all the elements of > negligence will be taken by the plaintiff here. This is > because the defendant did not have exclusive control of the > instrument that caused the injury (the unsecured overhead > baggage compartment). The fact is other persons have free > access to the compartment, and it cannot be exclusively > attributed to the Airline or Any Person who stores belongings > there. > > Next there must be a showing of proximate cause (legal > cause). The issue here is generally foreseeability. Was > risk of harm foreseeable, the results foreseeable, and a > foreseeable plaintiff. Results are almost always > foreseeable. Intervening causes will be considered here as > well. In other words was another thing was introduced that > attributes to the results. Defendants are liable for > foreseeable intervening causes such as medical malpractice, > subsequent disease, negligent rescue etc. And a defendant > takes his victim as they find them. In other words if you > had a condition that was present before the incident that was > worsened or only came into the light because of the incident, > such as a tendency to have migraine headaches that was not > known but became aggravated because of the incident the > defendant will be liable for the results. Defendants are not > generally liable for bizarre results though. In this case > harm because of a falling object from an overhead storage > compartment in an airplane is not bizarre. It is > foreseeable, the results are foreseeable, and the plaintiff > is foreseeable so proximate cause has been established in > this fact pattern to either the Airline or the person who > stored equipment in the overhead compartment (depending on > who actually has the duty owed). > > Finally there must be damages. These damages are past and > future medical bills, past and future pain and suffering, > past and future loss of wages or income. There is no > punitive damages unless the conduct of the defendant was > gross negligence, wanton or reckless in nature, which it is > not here. Add those damages up and there is a potential for > a case of negligence. Keep in mind that attorney fees, > expert witness fees and court costs are not recoverable, and > plaintiffs must bear those costs. Damages are not offset to > the defendant by collateral sources (insurance or other > benefits conferred on the plaintiff). > > Lest we forget the defenses of the defendant. > > 1. Contributory Negligence in Contributory Negligence > Jurisdictions (no recovery if plaintiff even 1&37; at fault) > 2. Comparative Negligence in Comparative Negligence > Jurisdictions (recovery sometimes limited to defendants fault) > 3. Assumption of risk. > > These are the defenses that the defendant will raise, not to > mention the risk/utility factor as mentioned above. > > Now, the question is did you assume a risk by sitting in the > seat below an overhead storage compartment? First of all you > have to know and appreciate the risk or should have > reasonably known about a risk in order to assume one, and > chose to encounter the risk voluntarily. And as a plaintiff > you have a duty to mitigate damages as well. This is the > defense that will be asserted in your case along with > comparative or contributory negligence whatever applies. I > don't think this defense fails here, because it is very > common practice for people who sit down in an airplane to > check the overhead compartment above them to make sure it is > safe. I would not doubt that there are warnings posted all > over the place in the plane as well. Therefore, your case no > matter how greatly it was presented will likely be either > dismissed or reduced to a point that it provides very little > of a worthy legal argument if any. The only rebuttal you have > is the "last clear chance" doctrine which basically means > that defendant had the last clear chance to protect against > the risk of harm, and the plaintiff did not. But, I doubt > that would be the issue here since either you the Airline or > the Person who stored the belongings depending on who has the > duty could have prevented the risk. > > Then weigh whether the case should go forward or not. So for > example if plaintiff had past medical bills and medicine of > $1,500, future medical bills of $1,500, lost wages for 7 days > $1,000 future lost wages of 7 days for future medical visits > $1,000, past pain and suffering of $500 and future pain and > suffering of $500 totaling $6,000, and attorney will cost > $2,400 (40&37;) expert testimony will cost $2,600 and court > costs will be $1,500 then all the plaintiff will be left > paying $500 out of pocket to even bring a case up it would > not be worth the effort. These numbers are completely > produced out of the air, and do not represent what this case > would cost. It is only here for example of what must be > considered. > > Another thing to consider is that you would be treated as an > invitee in this situation since the airplane is a business > purpose vessel and you most certainly paid for the airfare. > As an invitee the owner of the chattel (airplane in this > case) has a duty to inspect for dangerous instruments, and a > duty to warn or make safe. I would be assuming here, but I > assume that airplanes warn against falling objects from the > overhead compartment, and the risks involved. The airline > has met their duty in this case if they did provide warnings > and inspections, and the first issue of duty has been striken > from the negligence in the first place and without a breach > of duty there is no case. What you are trying to assert is > that the airline has a duty not only to inspect and warn but > to make safe, which it is an either or situation not both > (warn or make safe). Now, on the other hand if there is no > warning then they must make safe. Go back to the airplane > and check for a warning, or somewhere a warning documented. > I bet you will find one. > > Bottom line based on the facts I have analyzed you don't have > a case for negligence like OO pointed out. Unless you can > prove that the device that secures the compartment was faulty > (highly unlikely you could prove that, since you presented > facts that suggest it was a failure to secure the compartment > that caused the injury in the first place) But, feel free to > discuss it with an attorney from referral of the State Bar > (www.calbar.org) By aggressive do you mean that you expect > allot of money from this because you plan to sue the big > airline company? Don't expect too much, you will be limited > to your damages if you even have a case, which I doubt you do. > > On 10/15/05, Lisa wrote: >> About 10 months ago I was injured inside an airplane, >> coming back from Vegas to 0ntario California >> >> I was already seating and the plane was about to take off >> when suddenly a piece of luggage landed on my head and >> into my right shoulder, I don't know I may have a fracture >> on my sculp, because I been having tremendous very painful >> migrane headaches and I can't sleep and also can't sleep >> on my right side because of the terrible pain on my right >> shoulder due the injury >> >> Yes I did brought it to the attention to one of the flight >> attendants when it happened and all he said was: it's not >> the Airline's fault but the passengers negligence to lock >> the locker after he put his luggage inside, and he went on >> and brought me 2 aspirins and a can of soda for the pain >> >> Well I know for a fact that flight attendants have to >> check that each locker is been locked, before the planes >> take off, obviously this particular locker was open >> >> I know the Statue of Limitations is 2 years in this State >> >> Are there any sharp, agressive Lawyers that want to take >> my case? or can you recomend one? I am in Riverside County >> in California, please e-mail me at: luvtostudy@yahoo.com >> >> Thanks >> >> Lisa :)
Posts on this thread, including this one
- I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/15/05, by Lisa.
- Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/15/05, by 00.
- Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/15/05, by Lisa.
- Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/15/05, by 00.
- Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/17/05, by Student "Not an Attorney".
- Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/17/05, by Lisa.
- Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/18/05, by Student "Not an Attorney".
- Re: I NEED A SHARP, AGRESSIVE INJURY LAWYER ..., 10/18/05, by Lisa.
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