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    Re: Prose in County Court

    Posted by Carol on 8/16/06

    vd, I usually pride myself on being professional and have to admit
    that my response was not exactly that. I have a feeling that you
    are either pulling our leg or you need to get back on your meds
    though.
    > On 8/15/06, Vd wrote:
    >> Why is that Carol? Who are you by the way? It is just an ordinary
    >> case of debtor harrassment where the creditor is using or has
    >> enlisted the help of those using these technologies banned by the
    >> way by all the civilized nations in Europe. This is something we
    >> can look forward to from the least advanced people, who feel like
    >> kings, feel like gods. I am filing the claim myself so as not to
    >> have the counsel of lawyers like you .
    >>
    >> On 8/15/06, Carol wrote:
    >>> should have put this at the beginning since I'm sure no one
    >>> will read to the end of this: it's jiffy time!
    >>> On 8/15/06, Carol wrote:
    >>>> On 8/15/06, Vd wrote:
    >>>>> Can't find a lawyer.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Claim to be filed in County
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Item 1. Contract for installment purchase of Suzuki Forenza
    >>>>> 2004. The total price that the contract stipulates is
    >>>>> $19,612.00. The price of this same car on the day of
    >>>>> purchase was $9,462.00. . The total price I am to pay to
    >>>>> comply with the terms of the contract is over twice as much
    >>>>> as the price of the car. I signed the contract knowingly. I
    >>>>> had been denied credit by two other agencies previously,
    >>>> and
    >>>>> needed a car. The point I've tried to make here is that the
    >>>>> contract is sufficiently lucrative to the seller. It is not
    >>>>> a charitable favor, so I can have a car. The terms of
    >>>>> payment were a downpayment of $6,500, and installments of
    >>>>> $64 per week payable at the beginning of the week. The
    >>>>> dealer made as much money out of this as any other sale.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have here a recent publication addressing how widespread
    >>>>> consumer fraud is in the indsutry. And a letter from
    >>>>> Financial Services, I wrote them in terror when I returned
    >>>>> from Atlanta, while trying to bring the payments up to
    >>>>> date. For various reasons: 1. Hurricane Wilma 2. Christmas
    >>>>> Break 3. Fell ill in the schools while guest teaching, I
    >>>>> fell considerably behind in the payments. After I fell ill
    >>>>> in the school, I drove straight from there, with the things
    >>>>> I had in the car from the previoius days when we moved from
    >>>>> our apartment, my elderly mother included. I planned to go
    >>>>> to Augusta. But the symptoms became worse there, so I
    >>>>> continued to drive all the way to Atlanta. Sometime later I
    >>>>> finally threw up and felt better. Upon my return Safco
    >>>>> demanded in an almost violent manner, at their office, that
    >>>>> we pay $700 per week. They called mother (who is in her
    >>>> late
    >>>>> eighties, and I doggedly, threatening to take the car if we
    >>>>> did not bring the payments up to date. The man who appeared
    >>>>> to be manager told us that he would work with us. He meant
    >>>>> work on us. He was very loud yelling threats at us. I had
    >>>>> asked Safco in the mail and on the phone to send me an
    >>>>> updated bill. But they never did. I needed to know exactly
    >>>>> how much I was behind. I have a feeling that between $400
    >>>>> and $600 worth of payments never reached them. I have no
    >>>>> proof of this exactly. I live a hectic life and can't be as
    >>>>> organized as I would like. That is the reason I wrote to
    >>>>> Financial Services.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I could stop here and hope that I could achieve my ends by
    >>>>> reviewing the contract and its terms, as many consumers
    >>>> were
    >>>>> reported to have done in the web page enclosed. However, I
    >>>>> can't. I've got to address this more serious problem that
    >>>>> engulfs mother and I. There's a 4th reason I'm always far
    >>>>> behind in my payments these days. The reason is gasoline
    >>>>> expense and auto maintenance. A round trip to WPB from
    >>>> most
    >>>>> of Broward costs $30 worth of gasoline. Practically all of
    >>>>> my income has to be spent in gasoline needed to drive
    >>>> around
    >>>>> avoiding persecution. My 2004 Forenza's odometer registers
    >>>>> 99,000. Mother and I no longer have gas credit cards. We
    >>>>> topped them up and could not pay for them. These days I pay
    >>>>> for my gasoline in cash, lots of it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have been suffering this way slipping into indigency for
    >>>> a
    >>>>> period. I worked during the past three years and should
    >>>>> again this year at the Broward Schools, as a Substitute
    >>>>> Teacher. As soon as I finish work and even some days during
    >>>>> work, I feel sick or very uncomfortable or very frightened;
    >>>>> or all three things simulteneously. The symptoms are
    >>>> varied,
    >>>>> though some recurr often. I get purple swollen blood
    >>>>> vessels, muscular pains, itching, burning, liver pains,
    >>>>> cramps in my extremities, headaches, pains in my feet,
    >>>>> swollen ankles. Along with these constant rotations, I get
    >>>>> stellar symptoms. Right now for instance, I have segments
    >>>> of
    >>>>> someone's cold. I have the smell, taste, and tightness in
    >>>>> the chest, but do not have all the other symptoms that the
    >>>>> massive amount of pflegm that I've expectorated in the
    >>>>> morning, these last couple of days, would produce. And
    >>>>> recently I've experienced very disturbing pains on the
    >>>> sides
    >>>>> of my head. One time a ball measuring an inch in diameter,
    >>>>> grew on the palm of my left hand, as I looked at it. I used
    >>>>> to get smaller versions of that on my feet, when I slept at
    >>>>> the apartment we rented in Ft. Lauderdale.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I would have filed this claim a long time ago, but wondered
    >>>>> if... Well, I have been reading many web pages and
    >>>> documents
    >>>>> about communication betwen humans without the use of
    >>>> visible
    >>>>> devices. In fact a while ago someone uploaded a webpage
    >>>>> advertising the ability to communicate without devices, as
    >>>>> an investment. There were patents for a series of
    >>>>> technologies that would allow this type of communication,
    >>>>> granted as early as the fifties. Many web pages and books
    >>>>> attest to the fact that these are no longer technologies of
    >>>>> the future. Patents are not grated by the US Patent Office
    >>>>> if the descriptions of the items are not accurate and if
    >>>> the
    >>>>> inventions do not work exactly as described in the
    >>>>> submissions. Due to the fact that the public has been
    >>>>> mislead regarding these technologies by the mass media,
    >>>>> which always makes it sound as "future world", it is
    >>>>> difficult to proceed. However, I felt it is best to state
    >>>>> the whole plot perpetrated against me, and subsequently
    >>>> look
    >>>>> at some of the claims in this writings about "mind
    >>>> control",
    >>>>> compared to my own experiences.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Evidently I'm saying that I'm victimized with one or
    >>>> several
    >>>>> of the various methods mentioned. While I am treated in
    >>>> that
    >>>>> fashion, I hear exchanges between the workers at the car
    >>>>> loan offices, and a woman who is distantly related to me,
    >>>>> since she is the grandaughter of my maternal grandmother's
    >>>>> cousin. "A debtor should be chastised to the maximum
    >>>>> exponent." My distant relative is interested because one is
    >>>>> "related" and she has plans for the future. My debt lessens
    >>>>> her reputation, she says.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Another argument and probably the reason in itself, is my
    >>>>> good health and her poor health. Apparently she thinks she
    >>>>> can trade her health for mine persecuting me with wireless
    >>>>> appliances. Lately I haven't been able to live in the way
    >>>>> I'm accustomed to This is the first time in my life that
    >>>>> I'm not attending a health club regularly, which I had done
    >>>>> since I was in college. I run an average of 4 miles a week,
    >>>>> every two days. She has lived on fad diets most of her
    >>>> life,
    >>>>> with little success. Right after I purchased the car, she
    >>>>> turned up. I never saw her, I heard her in my head . She
    >>>>> became friends with the Financing Officer, who is obese
    >>>>> like her. A new level of torture began when my distant
    >>>>> relatives met with him to arrange for me to return the
    >>>> favor
    >>>>> they did me when they financed the car. This exchange would
    >>>>> be satisfied by her being able to use my body with the
    >>>> mind
    >>>>> control practices. How a little woman like me 5', can help
    >>>> a
    >>>>> large men like him is not clear to me. What I do know is
    >>>>> that since this started, a constant is that I'm always
    >>>>> extremely constipated. I have put on considerable weight,
    >>>>> particularly around my midrift. The most devastating
    >>>> problem
    >>>>> however is the pains I experience when she visits So.
    >>>>> Florida for the weekend. Pains in my lower extremities,
    >>>>> together with the black and blue; swollen blood vessels;
    >>>>> pains in my lungs and other areas of the back as a terminal
    >>>>> patient must experience; Her own dad's constantly tearing
    >>>>> eye, a very irritating symptom. There are other symptoms
    >>>>> besides. They seem to be from older people, with lower
    >>>>> extremity disorders.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I feel that redress must include not only a cessation of
    >>>>> their persecution, but also money damages to cover the gas
    >>>>> expense, as well as the depreciation on the vehicle. Though
    >>>>> I have been careful with the car, 100,000 miles do take
    >>>>> their toll. I would assess the loss at $15,000 ($10,000 for
    >>>>> gas and $5000 for depreciation.) This does not include
    >>>>> punitive damages, that in my view are quite in order. More
    >>>>> importantly it does not include my time. I've lived three
    >>>>> years in misery almost constantly, sitting in a hot car
    >>>>> without much interaction or benefit. Furthermore I have had
    >>>>> to live with much higher risk thanks to them, driving for
    >>>>> much longer periods with more opportunity for errors and
    >>>>> from spending more time in public, not in the safety of my
    >>>>> home.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Why don't I control myself and stay put? Well now that I've
    >>>>> stated the full plot, I can compare my experiences with
    >>>> some
    >>>>> of these writings. This is one of my favorite web pages,
    >>>>> "Reported mind control symptoms and descriptions
    >>>> include: "a
    >>>>> slow death," "unbelievably sophisticated," "vicious,
    >>>> amoral,
    >>>>> sadistic, and cruel." "Victims from all over the world have
    >>>>> contacted "Mind Justice" for instance, with reports of
    >>>> being
    >>>>> targeted with mind control technologies, although
    >>>>> approximately 75&37; of victims are American and Russian.
    >>>> The
    >>>>> following is a description of symptoms most commonly
    >>>>> reported by victims.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Victims are subjected to various kinds of harassment and
    >>>>> torture, twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, for
    >>>>> years on end. Most believe that some type of technology can
    >>>>> remotely track, target, and control every nerve in their
    >>>>> bodies. Heart and respiration rate can speed up and slow
    >>>>> down, and stomach and bowel functions are regulated.
    >>>>> Illnesses and all types of pain can turn on and off in an
    >>>>> instant. Microwave burns are reported. Sleep deprivation is
    >>>>> common and dreams are manipulated. Victims say, “They
    >>>>> [whoever is targeting them] can see through my eyes, what I
    >>>>> see.” Sometimes victims describe seeing the images of
    >>>>> projected holograms. Thoughts can be read. Most victims
    >>>>> describe a phenomenon they call “street theater.” For
    >>>>> example, people around the victim have repeated verbatim,
    >>>>> the victim’s immediate thoughts, or harassive and
    >>>>> personalized statements are repeated by strangers wherever
    >>>>> the victim may go. Emotions can be manipulated. Microwave
    >>>>> hearing, known to be an unclassified military capability of
    >>>>> creating voices in the head, is regularly reported.19
    >>>>> Implanted thoughts and visions are common, with repetitive
    >>>>> themes that can include pedophilia, homophobia and
    >>>>> degradation. Victims say it is like having a radio or TV in
    >>>>> your head. Less frequently, remote and abusive sexual
    >>>>> manipulation is reported. Almost all victims say repetitive
    >>>>> behavior control techniques are used and include negative,
    >>>>> stimulus-response or feedback loops.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Some type of outside force can strike heavy blows to any
    >>>>> object, or set any object including the body into strong
    >>>>> vibration while nearby objects are not vibrating at all.
    >>>>> Wrenching of house/building structures cause loud snapping
    >>>>> or crackling noises, often heard at precisely the point
    >>>>> where a victim is starting to doze off to sleep. Victims
    >>>>> regularly report many types of bizarre and harassive remote
    >>>>> manipulation of electrical equipment, phone, car, TV, and
    >>>>> computers. Mail tampering is reported as well. Black bag
    >>>>> intelligence tactics--tire slashing, break-ins without
    >>>>> burglary but at times including sabotaged, modified items
    >>>>> also appear on the list of invasions.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Victims agree: the experience of mind control phenomena is
    >>>>> vicious, amoral, sadistic, and cruel. Most victims describe
    >>>>> the experience as very debilitating and compare it to
    >>>> mental
    >>>>> rape, an electronic prison, or total destruction of the
    >>>>> quality of their lives. Many have been labeled mentally ill
    >>>>> and live with financial ruin, loss of health, social life,
    >>>>> and career. Victims theorize that the goal of the
    >>>>> experiments would appear to be the development of weapons
    >>>> to
    >>>>> neutralize the enemy, without killing them. All say the
    >>>>> technology is unbelievably sophisticated and effective. To
    >>>>> them, it is like a slow death." (Survey of Evidence
    >>>>> Regarding Mind Control Experiments by Cheryl Welsh
    >>>> Director,
    >>>>> Mind Justice January 2003 with 2006 update
    >>>>> http://www.mindjustice.org/index.html).
    >>>>>
    >>>>> A lot of this description fits my situation. The excuse
    >>>>> given for their "work", changes. Now it is not because City
    >>>>> Center was having a rock concert event, and two rock
    >>>>> musicians needed to park their guitar fingers full of cuts
    >>>>> in me all weekend. Now is that I owe, I owe, and off to
    >>>> work
    >>>>> I go not, at least not earning as much as I need to pay for
    >>>>> all the expenses. This makes it clear that I should be
    >>>>> chastised and what better way than by parking a half a
    >>>> dozen
    >>>>> septagenarians and octagenarians in me. Particularly when
    >>>>> one awakes. One is terrorized with the explanation that
    >>>> they
    >>>>> have been working on one all night, passing the severe
    >>>>> illnesses. One wakes up in excrutiating pain. One's toes,
    >>>>> feet and legs can cramp for what seems hours. Try as one
    >>>> may
    >>>>> the foot continues to twist the wrong way while you hurt
    >>>>> enough to scream loudly. Other times one may loose one's
    >>>>> balance and fall when the right ankle hurts tremendously.
    >>>>> With a little movement one improve s considerably. I've
    >>>>> experienced being tracked and under surveillance, as if
    >>>>> someone always watched me and through me. I have felt that
    >>>>> lots of functions in my body were regulated and
    >>>> deregulated,
    >>>>> such as they mentioned. In desperation I once wrote a poem
    >>>>> for a web site poet.com? Well they have an annual
    >>>>> presentation event. Half jokingly and to get the message
    >>>>> out, I wrote "Pain Is Pig" and sent it to them a couple of
    >>>>> years ago. There's proof that I have been experiencing
    >>>> these
    >>>>> problems as long as I've owned the car. I likened my
    >>>>> sensations of various symptoms to those plastic wheels that
    >>>>> color Christmas Trees for a minute: red, green, yellow,
    >>>>> blue, etc. I rarely dream. The real world irrupting into
    >>>>> one's thoughts is often sensed. The content of Musak
    >>>>> everywhere may be extremely pertinent. Most of it is
    >>>>> negative. People beat you to the punch: take the chair you
    >>>>> wanted; pick up the melon you liked... You live thwarted
    >>>> all
    >>>>> day. One does hear people in one's head all day and feels
    >>>>> that one communicates with them. However I would not say it
    >>>>> sounds as good as TV or radio. A lot of it is very
    >>>>> repetitive and insulting. There are two old men that
    >>>>> constantly talk when the pains appear early in the morning.
    >>>>> They mostly insult me. Several younger women constantly
    >>>>> ridicule me. TV! I wished! I must say that I have heard
    >>>> some
    >>>>> movie and TV personalities, recently, as I always have.
    >>>> They
    >>>>> sound like the real people, but one can't say. I have had
    >>>>> periods where there has been more sexual manipulation, but
    >>>>> this is not one of them. I call it the Auschwitz of the
    >>>>> Mind. I mostly manage control of myself. But sometimes it
    >>>> is
    >>>>> best to act as if one will loose it to make the pain or
    >>>>> other symptom stop. I do it in private, or hiding. The
    >>>>> finances are always a problem. It is more difficult to get
    >>>>> and keep a job with their practices. I don't understand why
    >>>>> people would think this is all done by our own government.
    >>>>> Development of weapons to neutralize the enemy? We are
    >>>>> civilians. In a war people live different lives.It doesn't
    >>>>> make sense. I think it is to lower our collective standard
    >>>>> of living and quality of live, but the perpetrator is not
    >>>>> our own government. ...And 75&37; of the victims
    >>>> complaining
    >>>>> are Americans and Russians? But according to the web pages
    >>>>> that turned up without much research, it is all done by
    >>>>> America's and Russia's government agencies... I think it
    >>>> may
    >>>>> be other foreign nationals. In fact although the government
    >>>>> did a lot of the original research, anyone could be using
    >>>>> the information declassified years ago. It may not eve have
    >>>>> anything to do with politics.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Anyone interested in leading me through filing Prose in
    >>>>> county civil court?
    >>>> Wow, Jiffy pop time.

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • Prose in County Court, 8/15/06, by Vd.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/15/06, by Carol.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/15/06, by Carol.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/15/06, by Vd.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/15/06, by Curmudgeon.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/16/06, by v.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/16/06, by M'sta Mikey.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/16/06, by Carol.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/17/06, by Vd.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/17/06, by v.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/18/06, by Carol.
  • Re: Prose in County Court, 8/18/06, by Carol.


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