Re: Lautenberg amendment
Posted by Curmudgeon on 12/24/07
A public service announcement--This is your brain on too much eggnog. On 12/24/07, Greg R. wrote: > On 6/11/07, Arla wrote: >> On 3/15/07, Chris wrote: >>> On 3/08/07, Bryce wrote: >>>> I plead guilty to a D.V charge in 1994. Not knowing this >>>> stupid law would come into effect, otherwise I would have >>>> took it to trial and won since all I did was push her away >>>> from me after he stabbed me in the back of my thigh with a >>>> btcher knife. Since this law came into effect in 1996/1997 >>>> and now I can't own a gun, isn't this then an ex post >>>> facto law, which is unonstitutional. I know case law says >>>> no, because ou are being punihed by the new law, not the >>>> D.V. But without the D.V. the new law would not have a >>>> recourse. therefore the new law is contingent upon the >>>> D.V. thus making it ex post facto. Am I wrong here? Are we >>>> going to stand and allow this blatent violation of the >>>> Contitution go unpunished. >>> >>> This has been going on for 10 years. There have been a >>> couple attempts at a repeal, but Congress does not seem to >>> want to revisit the issue. To do so may make them appear to >>> support Domestic Violence and Not the Constitution. >>> >>> Again, Write your Congress and tell them how you feel. >>> >>> This should be a matter for the Supreme Court, but I don't >>> think they will ever consider it >> This is so sureal. I am a wife of a wonderful husband whom has >> helped raise my kids since they were very little (they are not >> his biological). He did not have to suffer all the turmoil a >> teenager can put on you through the years but has done so due >> to the love that lies so deep. To get on with why I am >> responding to your posting is that I came from a very abusive >> marriage before I met my current husband. I was very young >> when I got with the curr hus and thought all men hit. No >> affence but after a battle with the x I knew no better. In any >> event when my curr hus tried to leave during an argument one >> evening back in 1997. I stood in front of him pushing him over >> and over again telling him I would not stand for it. At that >> time he pushed me away from the door saying he was not going >> to fight with me. After he had been gone for about an hour, I >> left and went to my sisters house. She told me she had heard >> he was seen with another women prior to this evening. In >> complete anger I called the police department wanting him >> removed from our home. I met the police at my home where my >> curr hus was sound asleep. I dont recall but am sure I did not >> want him jailed as I know deep within that he never tried to >> hurt me and as a matter a fact he was trying to avoid a >> physical altercation. The police arrested him anyway. We got >> over the thought of another women and have been happily >> togather for about 10 years. He rejoined the Military just >> after 9/11 and they swore him in even with this on his record. >> It has popped up before since my husband rejoined the Military >> but I still did not know the severety of the Lautenberg >> Ammendment. We have kept hope alive. Last night my husband >> shared an ugly truth that he did not want to share with me. He >> told me that about a month ago he was pulled into the JAG >> office and was relieved of his Military duty due to the >> Lautenberg Amendment. Back then I never apeared in court >> because I knew it was not right. The State picked up all >> charges. He plead guilty not knowing he may have a winning >> chance. OK call me a liar but I was very young and immature >> but now my husband has to deal with it. And now it is like he >> is being convicted twice for a charge that he already paid for >> and one he is not even guilty of. And to think if the D.V. >> charge had took place before the Ammendment, he would not be >> going through this. There are some real awful people out there >> that will never suffer this due to the fact that thier >> conviction took place before 1996. I love him and feel so >> guilty myself. Yes, you may not get to many wives admiting to >> stupidity but this is just not fair. I will try to get a word >> out to congress. Thank you for your encouraging message. > I just finished reading your story and I feel so mad! I too had > a story where my military career was damaged because of this > amendment. In my case my ex-wife flat out lied about the abuse > all because of a fight we had related to her friends which I > wasn't fond of. She told the police that I beat her and > threatened to kill her and all of her family. There must've been > over a hundred cops at the house when they came to arrest me. I > was charged with just about everything though nothing was ever > prooven the state picked up the charges and I got screwed! I > spent three months in the county jail awaiting trial. Since they > were unable to get a conviction out of me they told me that they > were going to finally release me to the Marines, once I pleaded > guilty that was, they lied. Upon being released I was picked up > by the Marines and spent an additional three months in the brig. > I was eventually discharge with a Bad Conduct Discharge, demoted > to a private a lost pay. The end result of all of this I am now > a convicted felon 4th deree aggravated assault and after working > for a few years in my home state on NJ where everything > happened, I since moved with my new family to Florida and this > backgroung has kept me from getting jobs that I've been more > than qualify. The Lautenberg Amendment is the socialists means > to keep people from being able to fight back when our > politicians eventually make the shift from free nation to a > socialist one, that's just my opinion but there are many more > reasons for this bill than just to protect D.V victims.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Lautenberg amendment, 3/08/07, by Bryce.
- Re: Lautenberg amendment, 3/15/07, by Chris.
- Re: Lautenberg amendment, 4/24/07, by To All!!!!!!!.
- Re: Lautenberg amendment, 4/28/07, by Concerned Citizen.
- Re: Lautenberg amendment, 6/11/07, by Arla.
- Re: Lautenberg amendment, 12/24/07, by Greg R..
- Re: Lautenberg amendment, 12/24/07, by Curmudgeon.
- Re: Lautenberg amendment, 12/28/07, by Bryce.
- Re: Lautenberg amendment, 3/11/08, by George C.
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