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    Re: Lautenberg amendment

    Posted by Curmudgeon on 12/24/07

    A public service announcement--This is your brain on too much
    eggnog.

    On 12/24/07, Greg R. wrote:
    > On 6/11/07, Arla wrote:
    >> On 3/15/07, Chris wrote:
    >>> On 3/08/07, Bryce wrote:
    >>>> I plead guilty to a D.V charge in 1994. Not knowing this
    >>>> stupid law would come into effect, otherwise I would have
    >>>> took it to trial and won since all I did was push her away
    >>>> from me after he stabbed me in the back of my thigh with a
    >>>> btcher knife. Since this law came into effect in 1996/1997
    >>>> and now I can't own a gun, isn't this then an ex post
    >>>> facto law, which is unonstitutional. I know case law says
    >>>> no, because ou are being punihed by the new law, not the
    >>>> D.V. But without the D.V. the new law would not have a
    >>>> recourse. therefore the new law is contingent upon the
    >>>> D.V. thus making it ex post facto. Am I wrong here? Are we
    >>>> going to stand and allow this blatent violation of the
    >>>> Contitution go unpunished.
    >>>
    >>> This has been going on for 10 years. There have been a
    >>> couple attempts at a repeal, but Congress does not seem to
    >>> want to revisit the issue. To do so may make them appear to
    >>> support Domestic Violence and Not the Constitution.
    >>>
    >>> Again, Write your Congress and tell them how you feel.
    >>>
    >>> This should be a matter for the Supreme Court, but I don't
    >>> think they will ever consider it
    >> This is so sureal. I am a wife of a wonderful husband whom has
    >> helped raise my kids since they were very little (they are not
    >> his biological). He did not have to suffer all the turmoil a
    >> teenager can put on you through the years but has done so due
    >> to the love that lies so deep. To get on with why I am
    >> responding to your posting is that I came from a very abusive
    >> marriage before I met my current husband. I was very young
    >> when I got with the curr hus and thought all men hit. No
    >> affence but after a battle with the x I knew no better. In any
    >> event when my curr hus tried to leave during an argument one
    >> evening back in 1997. I stood in front of him pushing him over
    >> and over again telling him I would not stand for it. At that
    >> time he pushed me away from the door saying he was not going
    >> to fight with me. After he had been gone for about an hour, I
    >> left and went to my sisters house. She told me she had heard
    >> he was seen with another women prior to this evening. In
    >> complete anger I called the police department wanting him
    >> removed from our home. I met the police at my home where my
    >> curr hus was sound asleep. I dont recall but am sure I did not
    >> want him jailed as I know deep within that he never tried to
    >> hurt me and as a matter a fact he was trying to avoid a
    >> physical altercation. The police arrested him anyway. We got
    >> over the thought of another women and have been happily
    >> togather for about 10 years. He rejoined the Military just
    >> after 9/11 and they swore him in even with this on his record.
    >> It has popped up before since my husband rejoined the Military
    >> but I still did not know the severety of the Lautenberg
    >> Ammendment. We have kept hope alive. Last night my husband
    >> shared an ugly truth that he did not want to share with me. He
    >> told me that about a month ago he was pulled into the JAG
    >> office and was relieved of his Military duty due to the
    >> Lautenberg Amendment. Back then I never apeared in court
    >> because I knew it was not right. The State picked up all
    >> charges. He plead guilty not knowing he may have a winning
    >> chance. OK call me a liar but I was very young and immature
    >> but now my husband has to deal with it. And now it is like he
    >> is being convicted twice for a charge that he already paid for
    >> and one he is not even guilty of. And to think if the D.V.
    >> charge had took place before the Ammendment, he would not be
    >> going through this. There are some real awful people out there
    >> that will never suffer this due to the fact that thier
    >> conviction took place before 1996. I love him and feel so
    >> guilty myself. Yes, you may not get to many wives admiting to
    >> stupidity but this is just not fair. I will try to get a word
    >> out to congress. Thank you for your encouraging message.
    > I just finished reading your story and I feel so mad! I too had
    > a story where my military career was damaged because of this
    > amendment. In my case my ex-wife flat out lied about the abuse
    > all because of a fight we had related to her friends which I
    > wasn't fond of. She told the police that I beat her and
    > threatened to kill her and all of her family. There must've been
    > over a hundred cops at the house when they came to arrest me. I
    > was charged with just about everything though nothing was ever
    > prooven the state picked up the charges and I got screwed! I
    > spent three months in the county jail awaiting trial. Since they
    > were unable to get a conviction out of me they told me that they
    > were going to finally release me to the Marines, once I pleaded
    > guilty that was, they lied. Upon being released I was picked up
    > by the Marines and spent an additional three months in the brig.
    > I was eventually discharge with a Bad Conduct Discharge, demoted
    > to a private a lost pay. The end result of all of this I am now
    > a convicted felon 4th deree aggravated assault and after working
    > for a few years in my home state on NJ where everything
    > happened, I since moved with my new family to Florida and this
    > backgroung has kept me from getting jobs that I've been more
    > than qualify. The Lautenberg Amendment is the socialists means
    > to keep people from being able to fight back when our
    > politicians eventually make the shift from free nation to a
    > socialist one, that's just my opinion but there are many more
    > reasons for this bill than just to protect D.V victims.

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • Lautenberg amendment, 3/08/07, by Bryce.
  • Re: Lautenberg amendment, 3/15/07, by Chris.
  • Re: Lautenberg amendment, 4/24/07, by To All!!!!!!!.
  • Re: Lautenberg amendment, 4/28/07, by Concerned Citizen.
  • Re: Lautenberg amendment, 6/11/07, by Arla.
  • Re: Lautenberg amendment, 12/24/07, by Greg R..
  • Re: Lautenberg amendment, 12/24/07, by Curmudgeon.
  • Re: Lautenberg amendment, 12/28/07, by Bryce.
  • Re: Lautenberg amendment, 3/11/08, by George C.


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