Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights
Posted by DAVID AND JERRY ANN, wdgiilenwater@yahoo.com, on 10/01/02
On 3/27/02, Darin wrote: > How can you make a man legally responsible for child > support when he isn't physically bond by flesh as the woman > is? This is a violation of his 14th amendment right to be > secure in his person, by adding more to his person than he > is legally responsible for. The woman liberates a part of > herself at the birth of the child. This can be > scientifically proven via visual confirmation of the birth. > > Roe vs. Wade established that the child is the woman's > body, not the man's. This excludes any legal > responsibility man has to the child. A man has the right > to be secure in his person, just as the woman does. Women > were allowed the use of this right in order to terminate an > individual after conception, on the basis that the > individual does not exist, and that all of the physical > matter surrounding this potential individual is her body to > do with as she pleases. This, so called, fact excludes the > existence of man's body within the woman, and therefor at > no point can a man's body be reintroduced into the equation > of the individual's existence, because no physical union > between the man and the born/unborn individual can be > scientifically measured. Even DNA cannot prove this > existence WITHOUT simultaneously AFFIRMING conceptual level > association, at which point the MURDER of men's children > could be establish at a genocidal level in our society. > This then concludes that at no point in the individual's > existence does the man have any physical responsibility to > external flesh. Failing to recognize the individual's > existence at conception, has definitely cause a great > problem in civilization, hasn't it? All for the rights of > a WOMAN! The BIG VICTIMS! Victimhood has produce a new > kind of victim. The victim of the victim. Our Government > was designed and established to do ONE thing, PROTECT THE > RIGHTS AND WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE VIA THE ESTABLISHMENT OF > FREEDOM, INCLUDING MEN'S! My advice to our wonderful > Government is to get out of our relationships before it has > more than it can deal with.I FOR ONE AM APPALLED THAT YOU COULD EVEN IMPLY THAT THE CASE OF ROE VS. WADE HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHILD SUPPORT ISSUES. ROE VS. WADE WAS ABOUT ABORTION ISSUES NOT THE LIFE OF A CHILD THAT IS ALREADY IN THIS WORLD A LIVING BREATHING BEING. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT GIVE DADS A BAD NAME. NOT ALL OF US ARE SELF-CENTERED SELFISH INDIVIDUALS. WHAT WE AS DADS SHOULD BE FIGHTING FOR IS THE RIGHT TO BE AS INVOLVED IN THE LIFE OF OUR CHILDREN BEFORE AND AFTER THE BIRTH. INSTEAD YOU ARE TRYING TO PROVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS. MY CHILD IS SIX YEARS OLD AND SINCE MY DIVORCE 4 YEARS AGO I'VE DONE NOTHING BUT TRY TO BE INVOLVED IN HIS LIFE. I'VE BEEN PERSECUTED AND JAILED FOR TRYING TO EXERCISE MY RIGHTS AS A FATHER. IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU DON'T WANT ANY RESPONSIBILITIES AS A FATHER MAYBE YOU SHOULD LEAVE YOUR PANTS ZIPPED. ANYTIME YOU INVOLVE YOURSELF IN A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP YOU RISK FATHERHOOD. UNLESS YOU OR YOUR PARTNER HAS HAD A HYSTERECTOMY/VASECTOMY.I AGREE THAT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE LESS INVOLVED WITH OUR FAMILY LIFE. THAT THE GOVERNMENTS INVOLMENT HAS CAUSED MORE HARM THAN GOOD. EVEN IN THE CASE OF ROEVS. WADE I BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT MADE A BAD DICISION. THE GOVERNMENT IS EVEN TO INVOLVED IN THE DISAPLINE OF OUR CHILDREN, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS WHY WE ARE HAVING SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH OUR YOUTH TODAY. BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A FATHER WITH ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT INCLUDES TAKE PRECAUTIONS TO PREVENT SUCH AN OCCURANCE, AND IF YOU DO BECOME A FATHER TAKE RESPONIBILITY AND STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILD.IN OTHER WORDS SPEND TIME WITH YOUR CHILD AND PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT.IN THE LONG RUN YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID. THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT COMPARES TO THE LOVE OF YOUR CHILD. IT IS WORTH ALL THE MONEY AND TIME IN THE WORLD. WDGILLENWATER@YAHOO.COM
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- Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights!, 3/27/02, by Darin.
- Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 3/30/02, by Amazed.
- Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 7/10/02, by susie.
- Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 7/27/02, by Dana.
- Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 9/09/02, by Mike.
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- Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 9/17/02, by CAROLE l. kOFAHL.
- Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 10/01/02, by DAVID AND JERRY ANN.
- Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 10/01/02, by DAVID AND JERRY ANN.
- Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 10/22/02, by Vic C Jr..
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