Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights

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On 11/12/02, lyn wrote:
> On 3/27/02, Darin wrote:
>> How can you make a man legally responsible for child
>> support when he isn't physically bond by flesh as the woman
>> is? This is a violation of his 14th amendment right to be
>> secure in his person, by adding more to his person than he
>> is legally responsible for. The woman liberates a part of
>> herself at the birth of the child. This can be
>> scientifically proven via visual confirmation of the birth.
>>
>> Roe vs. Wade established that the child is the woman's
>> body, not the man's. This excludes any legal
>> responsibility man has to the child. A man has the right
>> to be secure in his person, just as the woman does. Women
>> were allowed the use of this right in order to terminate an
>> individual after conception, on the basis that the
>> individual does not exist, and that all of the physical
>> matter surrounding this potential individual is her body to
>> do with as she pleases. This, so called, fact excludes the
>> existence of man's body within the woman, and therefor at
>> no point can a man's body be reintroduced into the equation
>> of the individual's existence, because no physical union
>> between the man and the born/unborn individual can be
>> scientifically measured. Even DNA cannot prove this
>> existence WITHOUT simultaneously AFFIRMING conceptual level
>> association, at which point the MURDER of men's children
>> could be establish at a genocidal level in our society.
>> This then concludes that at no point in the individual's
>> existence does the man have any physical responsibility to
>> external flesh. Failing to recognize the individual's
>> existence at conception, has definitely cause a great
>> problem in civilization, hasn't it? All for the rights of
>> a WOMAN! The BIG VICTIMS! Victimhood has produce a new
>> kind of victim. The victim of the victim. Our Government
>> was designed and established to do ONE thing, PROTECT THE
>> RIGHTS AND WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE VIA THE ESTABLISHMENT OF
>> FREEDOM, INCLUDING MEN'S! My advice to our wonderful
>> Government is to get out of our relationships before it has
>> more than it can deal with.
> ummmmmmmmmm you obviously are looking for a way out of a
> situation that u created but do not want responibility for.
> The child is part of you. You should WANT to help. We have
> to have laws like CSEA beacuse of losers like you!

"You should WANT to help"
"We have to have laws like CSEA beacuse of losers like you!"
Let me deside for you? What you should do? Losers like you?
Hmmm. I'm wondering who the “loser” here is.
Lets look at the content; name calling, personal imposition of
ones opinion upon another.
I like Mikes post and will compare one part of it to this
person’s response (reaction).
Notice the last portion of the quote regarding the individual?
"Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its
extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But
rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will
within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I
do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is
often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates
the right of an individual." --Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H.
Tiffany, 1819.
Get a grip and grow up let a man write his point without your
childish reactionary jabs.

Re: Child Support Enforcement is a Violation of Men's Rights, 12/30/11, by Matt schilling.

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