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    Re: audio surveillance public place

    Posted by Res Ipsa Loqitur wrote: on 1/05/07

    Windowlady

    I understand your concern for the unaware public in the bar and
    having someone listening to their private conversations. But
    realize that the government ie police have video cameras on
    every corner and MICROPHONES! The excuse is to hear gun shots
    and CONVERSATIONS of drug deals.

    Every time you walk into a gas station or department store there
    are people watching you on the video camera. The cameras in
    department stores have zoom capability to be able to read a
    customer's watch and tell time. The security department zooms on
    you very very close and could read your check book or private
    notes in your hand. Nothing now a days is safe including mail
    and is searched.

    Privacy in this country is a real concern but with the police
    state we are developing into the poor citizens have no freedom
    to speak anywhere they wish, write confidential letters with out
    someone else intruding and violating their privacy.

    I wish the law was different but this is the current status of
    law and Political environment we live in.


    Res Ipsa Loqitur wrote:


    On 1/04/07, windowlady wrote:
    > My concern is more for the customers who discuss business,
    > their private affairs etc., not so much for me as an employee.
    > These people are unaware they are being listened to.
    >
    > On 1/02/07, Res Ipsa Loqitur wrote:
    >> J
    >>
    >> My educated guess would be this falls in the same category
    >> of video cameras. The owners will use the excuse the reason
    >> for the audio microphones was to deter theft which is the
    >> same as video cameras. When on the clock you are under the
    >> employer's conditions ie having microphones listen to your
    >> words. Supreme court said it was okay to read employees e
    >> mails.
    >>
    >> On your side you might be able to assert your right to
    >> Privacy or reasonable expectation to privacy. This is NOT
    >> a constitutional right of Privacy. But it can be used in
    >> areas where privacy is exspected such as in restrooms and
    >> dressing rooms. Or in the privacy of your own PRIVATE
    >> property. But here in a General public area where words are
    >> not necessarily intended to be be private. A loud noisy bar
    >> is not an area where a judge will protect conversations.
    >> Remember in public areas and public access your "right" to
    >> privacy is minimized
    >>
    >> Res Ispa Loqitur
    >>
    >>
    >> On 12/31/06, j wrote:
    >>> I work at a bar that has 3 video surveillance cameras in
    >>> place for the past year. I recently found out that these
    >>> cameras are audio capable and linked somehow to their
    >>> home. They admitted that they have been listening to all
    >>> conversations at their home. This cannot be legal, can it?
    >>> Customers come in and discuss business and personal
    >>> issues. I make personal phone calls to family, doctors,
    >>> etc. and they have been listening this whole year. What
    >>> can I do?

    Posts on this thread, including this one
  • audio surveillance public place, 12/31/06, by j.
  • Re: audio surveillance public place, 1/02/07, by Res Ipsa Loqitur.
  • Re: audio surveillance public place, 1/04/07, by windowlady.
  • Re: audio surveillance public place, 1/05/07, by Res Ipsa Loqitur wrote:.
  • Re: audio surveillance public place, 4/04/08, by Tony.
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