Re: seperation of church & state?
Posted by anonymous on 9/08/04
You really can't have total seperation of church and state, since every elected official has a belief system, of some sort, and brings that with him/her to the office. That belief system will affect their judgement in proposing or supporting legislation. This is why I say that the 1st Amendment is only meant to prevent the State from establishing a State religion. On 7/26/04, SFanua, 2nd Yr Law Student- Saratoga Uni Sch of Law wrote: > Well 1st Amendment to deep for me to cross. However, > my suggestions, we should look closely to the Constitution- > First Amendment base in the federalism and state > establishment with in the context of religion and public > life. I have to agree there is no evidence of such delegated > power in the constitution (1st Amend.). However, the Bill of > Right suggestions that the religion clauses of the 1st > Amendment are meant to be taken broadly rather then > narrowly. I agree with previous post and I believe it has to > come from History of America going back to the founders of > America. If we could microscope ply examine each famous > founder and look in to their religion believe, their public > life and theirs ideology with regards to separation of > church and state (e.g. Virginia in 1786 enacted Jefferson’s > Bill for the establishment of religions liberty etc. Please > read “The First Freedoms" pp 134- 138), we might see the > difficult parcel start to come together. However, we should > also take into account the argument of accomodationists: > simply to bar the establishment of a state church, vs. > separationists: believe that the founders intended to > separate church and State and the framers: related to the > waning of establishment. > > Thank you > SFanua, 2nd Yr Law Student > > On 7/08/04, anonymous wrote: >> I have copies of the Constitution, all the amendments, and >> a large collection of the writings of the founding fathers. >> >> I have read over them many times and can not find the >> section where seperation of church and state is defined. >> >> All that the 1st Amendment says is that Congress shall > make >> no law abriding the freedom of religion or the practice >> thereof. (Although that part was conveniently tossed out > in >> the early part of the 19th century). >> >> So, where is said seperation defined/stated/etc?
Posts on this thread, including this one
- seperation of church & state?, 7/08/04, by anonymous.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/08/04, by US Supreme Court case law.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/08/04, by US Supremes quoting Jefferson.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/09/04, by anonymous.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/09/04, by anonymous.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/09/04, by anon.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/15/04, by somerandomguy.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/20/04, by anonymous.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/22/04, by Not so literal please?.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/26/04, by anonymous.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 7/26/04, by SFanua, 2nd Yr Law Student- Saratoga Uni Sch of Law.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 9/08/04, by anonymous.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 9/08/04, by anonymous.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 9/28/04, by Corky.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 9/28/04, by v.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 10/08/04, by just a kid.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 10/13/04, by Interested party.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 11/08/04, by ms.parker.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 11/09/04, by Gia.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 11/10/04, by v.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 12/07/04, by Kat.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 12/30/04, by Still lookin.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 12/30/04, by Still Lookin.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 12/31/04, by Ozarks Lawyer.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 1/02/05, by Still Lookin.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 2/13/05, by Notmyreligion.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 3/31/05, by response.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 3/31/05, by response.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 3/31/05, by response.
- Re: seperation of church & state?, 3/31/05, by response.
- Re: Church & State, 7/11/05, by Frank.
- Re: Church & State, 7/11/05, by v.
- Re: Church & State, 9/15/05, by Anonymous .
- Re: Church & State, 9/16/05, by v.
- Re: Church & State, 10/25/06, by Harold Robertson.
- Re: Church & State, 10/25/06, by Harold Robertson.
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