Re: Defimation of Character & Harassment

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Ric ~ Thank you. I appreciate your advice & your opinion.

On 3/04/04, Ric wrote:
> You may need to look at the CA State statues on how long a
> police department may hold any records about you without any
> conviction, nor any arrest. Even though they should not have
> any information on you without any conviction, or arrest
> (depending on state) after some time, most police departments
> are allowed to hold some records about people that are of
> interest directly or indirectly for a temporary period, but
> most are prohibited from releasing this information to anyone
> outside the police department. The interest is supposed to be
> on possile crimes or possible public safety issues that they
> are lawfully allowed to enforce and nothing more such as their
> own grudges, political affliations, religion, and so on. To
> protect yourself, keep all records of your interactions with
> the police of who, when, where, what, and how, and keep a
> complete set outside of your house with a trusted friend or
> relative. If something does come up where they or a similiar
> agency is doing something to harass you or they are not
> obeying the state laws, you have a clear way to file a law
> suit and desribe your situation to a court.
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> Overall, do not let it get to you, but let them make mistakes,
> which can make your legal situaiton more actionable in the eys
> of the law, and keep yourself protected by documentation,
> recordings, witnesses, and any honest supporters you can find.
> In dealing with the goverments you have more protection than
> dealing with some employers. You are your best defense even
> better than a lawyer since you have intimate knowledge of what
> has occured, and know how the situation personally effects
> you, so it is good if you can do some reseach on the internet,
> in book stores, and at libraries on your specific circumstance
> and the specific local laws that apply.
>
> Rember the golden rule (somewhat elaborated) :
> Do not speak to any government person without one or more
> witnesses, or without an attorney; and even then you may
> decide you do not wish to talk. There is not any law that
> compels you to speak unless it is ordered by a duly appointed
> court and/or judge.
>
> In your case there is likely federal laws and federaly
> agencies, or national socities about mental health issues that
> may help shed light on your protections. You have the right
> to be different and left alone, whether anyone thinks you are
> crazy or not. Unless they are a room full of mental health
> workers their opinion of crazy can mean nothing in court as
> long as you assert that basic fact. Keep in mind that
> smetimes lawyers forget to really fight on principles and
> instead try to smooth things over with the local majority,or
> cite past court cases, which is alright in some situations.
> Invidiual rights and individual behavior are sometimes best
> fought on principles of the law, constitution and ethics.
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> On 2/29/04, Cindy wrote:
>> I am a law-abiding homemaker. Just to let you know, I have
>> seen psychologists due to stress. I have never been
>> arrested or labeled a 5150 by any mental association, only
>> by the police, WHY? I get no answers to my questions.
>>
>> I suffer from fibromyalgia and post traumatic stress
>> disorder for all my effort of trying to get to and prove
>> the truth. It is hard for me to function normally on a
>> regular basis and I cannot hold down a steady job. I mainly
>> suffer from stress, and preferre to communication in
>> writing than in person, as I am then accountable for my
>> words. I do have a problem when it comes to being accused
>> of things I did not do. I am tired of being labeled and
>> lied about.
>>
>> I was black balled and lied about for making verbal
>> complaints against employees of the local drug task force
>> and the Sheriff's Dept. Now I'm making verbal complaints
>> about some of the city cops. Nothing is done because the
>> police records indicate I am a 5150.
>>
>> I WANT MY NAME CLEARED OF THIS LIE.
>>
>> The most recent incident we suffered from was on Friday
>> because a neighbor called the police on me for harassment.
>> I'm not sure what the harassment was and the police won't
>> tell me.
>> My husband went to the door of a neighbor because a 17 year
>> old continues to zoom through our neighborhood in a VW,
>> revving his motor in front of our house, blowing out
>> choaking white smoke when we are working in our garage or
>> front yard. By the way, the police did not want to hear our
>> side of the story. I remained in the street, video taping
>> the car, but the police were called on ME only! My husband
>> and I are again being told to move, by the police who
>> insinuated that I (not my husband) am making up things and
>> insinuated that I do not get along with any of my
>> neighbors! I live near relatives and friends now!
>>
>> We lived in our former neighborhood for 14 years, 7 with no
>> neighbor problems. When I started a neighborhood watch
>> program because of a stalking involving the neighbors
>> living on the street behind our house, and also turned in a
>> drug dealer, our lives were ruined. I had no idea the
>> criminal and his family were friends and informants of the
>> police. We turned over tape recordings of illegal
>> activities to the police, who did nothing but take stolen
>> property from the guy.
>> I began being lied about. Eventually I became known as
>> the 'crazy lady' because I kept documented information and
>> files on what was going on. This was told to me by one of
>> the Sheriff's who laughed at me also (tape recorded this
>> conversation also).
>> I was lied about by neighbors who all know or are related
>> to, some to cops, and attorneys in this area.
>>
>> About 4 years ago, one of the Lieutenants (tape-recorded
>> conversation) from the Sheriff's Dept., informed me that I
>> had been investigated and cleared of any wrong doing. What
>> wrong doing? When I requested a copy of the report, he then
>> told me there had been no investigation. I know there was,
>> as I video taped the officer going from house to house in
>> my former neighborhood.
>> I continue to get lied to by the police. The more questions
>> I ask, the more blame is laid on ME and the more harassment
>> I receive from neighbors or people from this group.
>> My questions never get answered.
>>
>> My husband and I moved from advice of an attorney. We have
>> lived here for 3 years now, but have been harassed because
>> of the lying gossip and labeling. We I have seen favoritism
>> and discrimination from the police in our area.
>>
>> We just want to live in peace, but because I have been
>> labeled, I am a target by liars, relatives, friends and God
>> knows who else because of it, like the neighbors we are
>> dealing with now.
>>
>> This is the pattern: First we are harassed, either my
>> husband and I call the police, or the police are called on
>> ME: Once in this neighborhood for harassment I wasn't
>> doing, twice in the other, for throwing rocks at a
>> neighbors house when I wasn't home, I was at the
>> chiropractor. And once for calling a neighbor a liar and
>> video taping it. No one ever calls the police on my
>> husband. He could get away with murder and I would get the
>> blame!
>> Then I am lied about. Then the police twist the truth and
>> make out I am the problem and the trouble maker. I believe
>> this is because of the labelling that has followed me from
>> the previous neighborhood.
>> This upsets me. I will admit, I have problems dealing with
>> the blame stress.
>>
>> The police only give me the run-around and insinuations
>> when I try to get answers to my questions, and of course, I
>> am always blamed by the police as being the problem. I do
>> not respect them, nor have any fear of them.
>> My husband and I once volunteered for the Sheriff's Dept.
>> on the local Search & Rescue Tea and know how they can
>> twist the truth with all out lies. We quit when I began
>> recieving police intimidation from some of the cops. They
>> never bothered my husband but he quit because of me.
>>
>> I was afraid to go to the press in the past out of fear my
>> husband may loose his job, the only means of support we
>> have, because of me. I am not in fear of loosing my life to
>> get to the truth.
>>
>> I do NOT want advice from anyone in our area. We need to
>> speak to someone outside this area, a neutral party, that
>> is not easily influenced by the status of the 'clan' in our
>> area and where money and social status is not the main
>> issue. Someone who is truthful and can defend my rights
>> would be very much appreciated.
>>
>> If you could PLEASE, please help us and give us advice on
>> what to do or who to seek for legal advice, it would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>> We believe there is more going on here than meets the eye
>> and the problems for ME are not just going to go away as
>> long as I have to live in this town, especially being
>> labelled a 5150, and as long as the police know where I
>> live.
>>
>> I will do whatever it takes to get to the truth and get my
>> name cleared of this lie. I have met many people here that
>> are afraid of the police and others that have been suffered
>> mistreatment. I have the proof.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Cindy in California

Re: Defimation of Character & Harassment, 4/03/12, by sally bailey.

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