Re: 3-years non-bar qualifying J.D. + online ABA LL.M.

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1. An online non-bar track J.D. program is worthless when computing bar
eligibility;
2. There is no state bar in the United States which will accept a student
who only has an LLM. Posts from this chat in the past have gone over this
throughout the past year. The only ways to qualify for the California bar
exam are as follows:

a. attend and grad. from an ABA school,
b. attend a california CBA school,
c. attend a non-aba or non-cba school, take the baby bar, and then the
big bar,
d. attend a foreign distance program, like London's llb program, (take
the baby bar??--see the bar's website for clarification and details) and
then they MAY/MIGHT let you take it under this rule, depending on the
particular common or civil law jurisdiction.
e. law office/judge's chambers study, take the baby bar, and then the big
bar.

The problem is, that in order to be eligible under any correspondence
route, you must take the baby bar, which you won't be eligible for if you
are in a non-bar track.

There are no shortcuts. If there was a way to get a non-aba law degree
and then an LLM and be bar eligible, don't you think we would all be
doing it by now? A non-bar program is just that: a non-bar program.

However, don't take my word for it. Go directly to the admissions section
of the California Bar at www.calbar.ca.gov for more details.

Legal Beagle

On 11/29/07, Steve wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> Do you remember if the book mentions that a 3-year non-bar qualifying
> J.D. + an online ABA LL.M. qualifies one to sit for the California bar
> exam?
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
>
>
> On 11/18/07, Dan wrote:
>> I just posted a response but the new book I received -The Online Law
>> schools book(www.onlinelawschools dot org) details the Thomas
>> Jefferson Program run by Mr William Brynes is the same program that
>> was at St Thomas. He runs it in San Diego Now. It is still an ABA
>> ONLINE LLM program, and they do accept Distance Learnng students.
>> The book even told me that you can take the program while still in
>> school, and receive your JSM instead of LLM, But you would still
>> have the 24 or so credits from an ABA School. Plus, there are other
>> online LLM ABA School programs detailed in the book that are not
>> advertised. And Penn state has some kind of Online JD program
>> courses available that the ABA is testing. I highly reccomend
>> checking the book out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/01/06, justicelawyer wrote:
>>> Today St. Thomas University School of LAw in Miami Florida
>>> announced it no longer offers the LL.M degree online.
>>>
>>> This decision along with the Calif Dunn bill passing is slowly
>>> closing the loopholes to becoming a lawyer other then the
>>> traditional classroom route.
>>>
>>> By 2008 or 2009 most online law schools in California will be
>>> closed due to the Dunn Bill and its requirements for those type of
>>> law schools.
>>>
>>> California is slowly working behind the scene to close the last
>>> remaining viable option other then attending a traditional ABA law
>>> school.
>>>
>>> Call St. Thomas for details on the closing down of the online LL.M
>>> degree!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/06, Linda wrote:
>>>> On 11/28/06, Linda wrote:
>>>>> On 3/01/06, hraimey wrote:

>>>>>> On 1/04/06, FRice wrote:
>>>>>>> Does anyone out there have any experience with one of
>>>>>>> these programs? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>>>>>>> Are they worthwhile or a waste of time? Let me know.
>>>>>> I have researched the exec jd program. my understanding is
>>>>>> that it for individuals seeking the accreditation of a law
>>>>>> degree but not necessarily those who wish to practice law.
>>>>>> It may be helpful to those seeking career opportunities in
>>>>>> governmental agencies such the FBI, INS, or IRS. It may
>>>>>> also be beneficial for people seeking in-counsel positions
>>>>>> in the corporate arena. I have a list of career and job
>>>>>> descriptions available for the exec program if you are
>>>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in the list of career and job descriptions
>>>> mentioned in the last sentence above. Has anyone in the
>>> meantime
>>>> know anything more about this program and whether it is
>>>> worthwhile or not?
>>>>
>>>>