Re: Michigan Bankruptcy Laws re: Correspondence Law Students

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This Clown Prince, dude, is the same guy
that claims he represents clients in his
SS disability "practice" or some administrative
practice, which by the way my barber, my gardner,
and my mechanic can do as well.

God forbid he actually passes the bar after
graduating from West Coast Spare Bedroom School of Law.

A "law school" that doesnt use Westlaw or Lexis Nexis,lol?

And this idiot claims he originally went to an ABA
law school, No I dont think so, lol

On 11/02/08, -- wrote:
> On 11/02/08, Crap schools make crap lawyers wrote:
>> YOUR CURRENT "LAW SCHOOL" DOESNT PROVIDE ACCESS TO WESTLAW
>> OR NEXIS CUZ IT AINT REALLY A LAW SCHOOL.
>>
>> Its a self study mail order degree from a guy's spare
>> bedroom.
>
> That is the unfortunate part of a DL school program. Not only do they not offer Lexis
> or Westlaw access, they apparently don't require law library work to be done.
>
> When CP asked if anyone knew if the "Rittenhouse" case was still good law, I stupidly
> tried to do his work for him. My bad. The correct response to a student would be "Have
> you Shepardized the case?" If not, then go do that before you ask for somebody else to
> do your study work for you. The first lesson for a student to learn is not whether the
> case is still good law but what procedures a student should go through to obtain the
> information to make a determination if it is still good law. This is not just a
> meaningless academic exercise. If you submit a filing to a court and rely on superceded
> case law, you not only look like a dumb a$$ you also face possible Rule 11 sanctions.
>
> As a law student, not having access to research materials is not an excuse, it is an
> admission that you are not really seriously studying law. If you don't have access to
> basic research materials (like case law books and Shepard's books and current updates)
> you should not attempt the study of law. Text books just point you in the direction of
> where you must go to accomplish the learning process of law school; you MUST have access
> to law library material on a daily basis and USE IT!
>
> CP -- If I went to a law professor and asked if a case was good law, he/she would ask
> what I had found in my Shepard's research. If I said I had not done any - oh cr@p! I
> would look like an idiot and not be welcome to come back to his/her office again. If
> I said I had done the research and was unsure of how to interpret the holding of "so
> and so case" as it related to the original case on "such and such a point" and explained
> the dichotomy it presented, we could probably have a conversation about whether the
> superceding case was merely a cite to the original case or dicta or actually overturned
> the case.
>
> Anyway dude -- I think it would be in the spirit of education if you reported back as to
> whether your research and analysis of subsequent cases showed that "Rittenhouse" is still
> good law or not. Then if someone else disagreed with your analysis we could have an
> educational discussion.