Re: Cal Southern DETC Accreditation

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Cal Southern's Dean can't even pass the California bar examination. Check the bar's website -
she's not a California attorney.

Frank

On 12/21/09, Karen wrote:
> That's interesting. Where did you get a copy of their financials? Are they posted on their
> website?
>
> I just contacted Lincoln and they withdrew their application. They didn't think DETC
> accreditation justifies the cost.
>
> Karen
>
> On 12/21/09, Just cuz you dont like it...... they still beat ALU wrote:
>> Not affiliated with Cal Southern in any way.
>>
>> Bozo, did you not notice that Abraham Lincoln
>> Law school, which by the way has more graduates
>> that passed the bar then does Cal Southern, did
>> FAILED the last cut and are no longer posted
>> on the DETC website as an applicant school.
>>
>> Cal Southern is getting accreditation based on many
>> other factors not related to the bar pass rate.
>>
>> It is also based on great school of behavorial sciences
>> progam which has been state approved for a long long time,
>> the school has been around since 1978 and they have strong
>> financials.
>>
>> They will be accredited when next announcement is made!
>>
>> On 12/21/09, Paul wrote:
>>> Did you take the time to read the DETC standards. They're on the DETC website. Based on
>>> your poor research, you must be a Cal Southern law student!
>>>
>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
>>> in nature and level.”
>>>
>>> What you you think this means?
>>>
>>> Last year people were making the same claims about Lincoln. And what happened to then?
>>>
>>> If you're a sales rep for Cal Southern you're not fooling anyone.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> n 12/21/09, They will get it...........only passed 2 cuts wrote:
>>>> They do not accredit law schools based on bar
>>>> passage rates. California Southern U. will
>>>> get DETC accreditation BEFORE June 2010.
>>>>
>>>> ALU faied the last cut which was done right before
>>>> Dec 2009, Cal Southern made the cut.
>>>>
>>>> Subject Over !
>>>>
>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
>>>>> I quoted directly from DETC's website. If DETC doen't follow its own rules then DETC
>>>>> accreditation must not be worth anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/20/09, Cal Southern will get DETC wrote:
>>>>>> There are graduates of California Southern University / Southern California
>>>>>> University for Professional Studies that have passed the bar, not alot,
>>>>>> but DETC is not accreditating schools based on any law school's pass rates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is based on being around since 1978, being well-established, solid
>>>>>> financials, solid education programs and a number of other factors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being a law school and its bar pass rate is NOT a factor, call DETC
>>>>>> and they will tell you bar pass rate is not the accreditation deciding
>>>>>> factor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cal Soutehr will be DETC accredited BEFORE next round which happens in June 2010, it
>>>>>> already has survived 2 critical cuts of other applicant schools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>> DETC does look at bar pass rates:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
>>>>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
>>>>>>> in nature and level.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Karen is correct and no Cal Southern students pass the bar I don't see how they
>>>>>>> can be accredited. Same for Lincoln Concord has something like a 50&37; pass rate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, DETC for Cal Southern University wrote:
>>>>>>>> Because of the time frame they have had
>>>>>>>> their application in the process and because in the past
>>>>>>>> several months posted on the DETC website the number
>>>>>>>> and names of active applicants have changed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some schools either pulled out or were denied.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> California Southern University has already made
>>>>>>>> 2 critical cuts.......they are a shoe in for
>>>>>>>> accreditation now!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Interesting. What makes you think that accreditation is near?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Cal Souther will get accredited wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> California Southern University used to be called
>>>>>>>>>> Southern California University for Professional
>>>>>>>>>> Studies and have been around since 1978 offering
>>>>>>>>>> a variety of degree problems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The DETC doesnt give accreditation based on bar passage
>>>>>>>>>> rates and most likely California Southern University
>>>>>>>>>> will be accredited BEFORE June 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I never heard of California Southern University. It looks like they were
>>>>>>>>>>> once called Southern Cal University Professional Studies. If so, I can't
>>>>>>>>>>> see anywhere on the Cal Bar website that the school has ever had anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> pass the bar exam on the first try.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Would DETC consider this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, only 1 law school up for accreditation wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stunned?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ALU doesnt deserve DETC accreditation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually the law school that is very, very, close
>>>>>>>>>>>> to DETC accrediation is California Southern University.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It will be announced soon !
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, Larry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stunned. It looks like you're right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>