Re: Cal Southern DETC Accreditation

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DETC accreditation by June 2010

On 12/21/09, Frank wrote:
> Cal Southern's Dean can't even pass the California bar examination. Check the bar's website -
> she's not a California attorney.
>
> Frank
>
>
> On 12/21/09, Karen wrote:
>> That's interesting. Where did you get a copy of their financials? Are they posted on their
>> website?
>>
>> I just contacted Lincoln and they withdrew their application. They didn't think DETC
>> accreditation justifies the cost.
>>
>> Karen
>>
>> On 12/21/09, Just cuz you dont like it...... they still beat ALU wrote:
>>> Not affiliated with Cal Southern in any way.
>>>
>>> Bozo, did you not notice that Abraham Lincoln
>>> Law school, which by the way has more graduates
>>> that passed the bar then does Cal Southern, did
>>> FAILED the last cut and are no longer posted
>>> on the DETC website as an applicant school.
>>>
>>> Cal Southern is getting accreditation based on many
>>> other factors not related to the bar pass rate.
>>>
>>> It is also based on great school of behavorial sciences
>>> progam which has been state approved for a long long time,
>>> the school has been around since 1978 and they have strong
>>> financials.
>>>
>>> They will be accredited when next announcement is made!
>>>
>>> On 12/21/09, Paul wrote:
>>>> Did you take the time to read the DETC standards. They're on the DETC website. Based on
>>>> your poor research, you must be a Cal Southern law student!
>>>>
>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
>>>> in nature and level.”
>>>>
>>>> What you you think this means?
>>>>
>>>> Last year people were making the same claims about Lincoln. And what happened to then?
>>>>
>>>> If you're a sales rep for Cal Southern you're not fooling anyone.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>> n 12/21/09, They will get it...........only passed 2 cuts wrote:
>>>>> They do not accredit law schools based on bar
>>>>> passage rates. California Southern U. will
>>>>> get DETC accreditation BEFORE June 2010.
>>>>>
>>>>> ALU faied the last cut which was done right before
>>>>> Dec 2009, Cal Southern made the cut.
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject Over !
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
>>>>>> I quoted directly from DETC's website. If DETC doen't follow its own rules then DETC
>>>>>> accreditation must not be worth anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Cal Southern will get DETC wrote:
>>>>>>> There are graduates of California Southern University / Southern California
>>>>>>> University for Professional Studies that have passed the bar, not alot,
>>>>>>> but DETC is not accreditating schools based on any law school's pass rates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is based on being around since 1978, being well-established, solid
>>>>>>> financials, solid education programs and a number of other factors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being a law school and its bar pass rate is NOT a factor, call DETC
>>>>>>> and they will tell you bar pass rate is not the accreditation deciding
>>>>>>> factor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cal Soutehr will be DETC accredited BEFORE next round which happens in June 2010, it
>>>>>>> already has survived 2 critical cuts of other applicant schools.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>> DETC does look at bar pass rates:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
>>>>>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
>>>>>>>> in nature and level.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If Karen is correct and no Cal Southern students pass the bar I don't see how they
>>>>>>>> can be accredited. Same for Lincoln Concord has something like a 50&37; pass rate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, DETC for Cal Southern University wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Because of the time frame they have had
>>>>>>>>> their application in the process and because in the past
>>>>>>>>> several months posted on the DETC website the number
>>>>>>>>> and names of active applicants have changed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some schools either pulled out or were denied.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> California Southern University has already made
>>>>>>>>> 2 critical cuts.......they are a shoe in for
>>>>>>>>> accreditation now!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. What makes you think that accreditation is near?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Cal Souther will get accredited wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> California Southern University used to be called
>>>>>>>>>>> Southern California University for Professional
>>>>>>>>>>> Studies and have been around since 1978 offering
>>>>>>>>>>> a variety of degree problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The DETC doesnt give accreditation based on bar passage
>>>>>>>>>>> rates and most likely California Southern University
>>>>>>>>>>> will be accredited BEFORE June 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I never heard of California Southern University. It looks like they were
>>>>>>>>>>>> once called Southern Cal University Professional Studies. If so, I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> see anywhere on the Cal Bar website that the school has ever had anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> pass the bar exam on the first try.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Would DETC consider this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, only 1 law school up for accreditation wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stunned?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALU doesnt deserve DETC accreditation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually the law school that is very, very, close
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to DETC accrediation is California Southern University.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will be announced soon !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, Larry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stunned. It looks like you're right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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