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Re: Cal Southern DETC Accreditation
Posted by Some have passed Cal Bar on 12/26/09

    They do have some graduates that have
    passed the California Bar !

    On 12/25/09, Larry wrote:
    > Even with DETC, why would anyone attend a school where none of its graduates can pass the bar exam?
    >
    > On 12/24/09, It will be accreditated wrote:
    >> SCUPS was denied but Cal Southern University
    >> is getting DETC before the new applicant list in June 2010
    >> and that is just the way it is.
    >>
    >> They survived (2) cuts and are on their way to DETC
    >> accreditation.
    >>
    >> They have different management for the accreditation
    >> and different programs and doctorates were removed
    >> except for behavorial program and law program as
    >> required for DETC.
    >>
    >>
    >> On 12/24/09, Cal Southern Denied DETC wrote:
    >>> Cal Southern (then SCUPS) is the only school in the past ten years to be denied accreditation by the
    >>> DETC Council. It happened in 2003. Most schools (like Lincoln) simply withdraw their applications
    >>> rather than fact a denial.
    >>>
    >>> On 12/22/09, Karen wrote:
    >>>> Why not January? That's the next DETC Governor's meeting.
    >>>> Karen
    >>>>
    >>>> On 12/22/09, DETC accreditation for Cal not for ALU wrote:
    >>>>> DETC accreditation by June 2010
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 12/21/09, Frank wrote:
    >>>>>> Cal Southern's Dean can't even pass the California bar examination. Check the bar's website -
    >>>>>> she's not a California attorney.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Frank
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 12/21/09, Karen wrote:
    >>>>>>> That's interesting. Where did you get a copy of their financials? Are they posted on their
    >>>>>>> website?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I just contacted Lincoln and they withdrew their application. They didn't think DETC
    >>>>>>> accreditation justifies the cost.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Karen
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Just cuz you dont like it...... they still beat ALU wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Not affiliated with Cal Southern in any way.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Bozo, did you not notice that Abraham Lincoln
    >>>>>>>> Law school, which by the way has more graduates
    >>>>>>>> that passed the bar then does Cal Southern, did
    >>>>>>>> FAILED the last cut and are no longer posted
    >>>>>>>> on the DETC website as an applicant school.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Cal Southern is getting accreditation based on many
    >>>>>>>> other factors not related to the bar pass rate.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> It is also based on great school of behavorial sciences
    >>>>>>>> progam which has been state approved for a long long time,
    >>>>>>>> the school has been around since 1978 and they have strong
    >>>>>>>> financials.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> They will be accredited when next announcement is made!
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Paul wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Did you take the time to read the DETC standards. They're on the DETC website. Based on
    >>>>>>>>> your poor research, you must be a Cal Southern law student!
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
    >>>>>>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
    >>>>>>>>> in nature and level.”
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> What you you think this means?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Last year people were making the same claims about Lincoln. And what happened to then?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> If you're a sales rep for Cal Southern you're not fooling anyone.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Paul
    >>>>>>>>> n 12/21/09, They will get it...........only passed 2 cuts wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> They do not accredit law schools based on bar
    >>>>>>>>>> passage rates. California Southern U. will
    >>>>>>>>>> get DETC accreditation BEFORE June 2010.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> ALU faied the last cut which was done right before
    >>>>>>>>>> Dec 2009, Cal Southern made the cut.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Subject Over !
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> I quoted directly from DETC's website. If DETC doen't follow its own rules then DETC
    >>>>>>>>>>> accreditation must not be worth anything.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Paul
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Cal Southern will get DETC wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> There are graduates of California Southern University / Southern California
    >>>>>>>>>>>> University for Professional Studies that have passed the bar, not alot,
    >>>>>>>>>>>> but DETC is not accreditating schools based on any law school's pass rates.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> It is based on being around since 1978, being well-established, solid
    >>>>>>>>>>>> financials, solid education programs and a number of other factors.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Being a law school and its bar pass rate is NOT a factor, call DETC
    >>>>>>>>>>>> and they will tell you bar pass rate is not the accreditation deciding
    >>>>>>>>>>>> factor.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Cal Soutehr will be DETC accredited BEFORE next round which happens in June 2010, it
    >>>>>>>>>>>> already has survived 2 critical cuts of other applicant schools.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> DETC does look at bar pass rates:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> in nature and level.”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> If Karen is correct and no Cal Southern students pass the bar I don't see how they
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> can be accredited. Same for Lincoln Concord has something like a 50&37; pass rate.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, DETC for Cal Southern University wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of the time frame they have had
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their application in the process and because in the past
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> several months posted on the DETC website the number
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and names of active applicants have changed.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some schools either pulled out or were denied.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Southern University has already made
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 critical cuts.......they are a shoe in for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accreditation now!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. What makes you think that accreditation is near?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Cal Souther will get accredited wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Southern University used to be called
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Southern California University for Professional
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Studies and have been around since 1978 offering
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a variety of degree problems.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DETC doesnt give accreditation based on bar passage
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rates and most likely California Southern University
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be accredited BEFORE June 2010.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never heard of California Southern University. It looks like they were
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once called Southern Cal University Professional Studies. If so, I can't
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see anywhere on the Cal Bar website that the school has ever had anyone
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass the bar exam on the first try.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would DETC consider this?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, only 1 law school up for accreditation wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stunned?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALU doesnt deserve DETC accreditation.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually the law school that is very, very, close
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to DETC accrediation is California Southern University.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will be announced soon !
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, Larry wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stunned. It looks like you're right.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     
     

 
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