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Re: No Cal Southern DETC Accreditation
Posted by Larry the moron on 12/30/09

    No you dumbfk, I don't have any information. I was just reading your stupid comments and couldn't resist to post. Why not wait
    one month to see the results.

    you are interested in truth my a$$. what other truth are you uncovering. did you get all truth about your mom? you sicko.

    On 12/29/09, Larry wrote:
    > My interest is the truth. Aren't you the one with the "inside" information?
    >
    > On 12/29/09, Larry the moron wrote:
    >> what is your interest here? are you mentally sick or something?
    >>
    >> On 12/28/09, Larry wrote:
    >>> I'll pass this thread along to DETC. I expect that the DETC Governors will be interested in what Cal Southern says
    >>> that the Governors must do.
    >>>
    >>> On 12/28/09, it is based on many things wrote:
    >>>> Because DETC does NOT accredit a degree or a degree program.
    >>>>
    >>>> they accredit the whole school.
    >>>>
    >>>> and Cal Southern will be accredited by June 2010.
    >>>>
    >>>> On 12/28/09, Larry wrote:
    >>>>> There could be a very good reason why Cal Southern hasn't had anyone pass the bar on the first attempt in over ten
    >>>>> years. Only a fool would enroll in such a program in the first place. So you can't blame Cal Southern.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Seriously, law schools are measured by how many graduates pass on the first attempt. And Cal Southern has none,
    >>>>> zero. Concord has nearly 50&37; and taft not far behind.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have no idea what DETC will do, but if they accredit Cal Southern it will be a low point in their history.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 12/26/09, They have some graduates that passed bar. wrote:
    >>>>>> Larry Larry, Larry, I didnt say first time, I SAID AND I WILL SAY IT
    >>>>>> AGAIN, CALIFORNIA SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE
    >>>>>> 1978 AND HAS HAD A HUMBER OF GRADUATES PASS THE CALIFORNIA BAR.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You made a weak attempt to try and make it sound like
    >>>>>> the school never in its history had a graduate pass
    >>>>>> the bar. It is more then a law school and DETC doesnt
    >>>>>> grant accreditation based on bar passage rates.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 12/26/09, Larry wrote:
    >>>>>>> According to the Bar stats, no Cal Southern (SCUPS) graduate has passed the first time in over ten years.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 12/26/09, Some have passed Cal Bar wrote:
    >>>>>>>> They do have some graduates that have
    >>>>>>>> passed the California Bar !
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 12/25/09, Larry wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Even with DETC, why would anyone attend a school where none of its graduates can pass the bar exam?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On 12/24/09, It will be accreditated wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> SCUPS was denied but Cal Southern University
    >>>>>>>>>> is getting DETC before the new applicant list in June 2010
    >>>>>>>>>> and that is just the way it is.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> They survived (2) cuts and are on their way to DETC
    >>>>>>>>>> accreditation.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> They have different management for the accreditation
    >>>>>>>>>> and different programs and doctorates were removed
    >>>>>>>>>> except for behavorial program and law program as
    >>>>>>>>>> required for DETC.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/09, Cal Southern Denied DETC wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> Cal Southern (then SCUPS) is the only school in the past ten years to be denied accreditation by the
    >>>>>>>>>>> DETC Council. It happened in 2003. Most schools (like Lincoln) simply withdraw their applications
    >>>>>>>>>>> rather than fact a denial.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/22/09, Karen wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Why not January? That's the next DETC Governor's meeting.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/22/09, DETC accreditation for Cal not for ALU wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> DETC accreditation by June 2010
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Frank wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal Southern's Dean can't even pass the California bar examination. Check the bar's website -
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> she's not a California attorney.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Karen wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's interesting. Where did you get a copy of their financials? Are they posted on their
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just contacted Lincoln and they withdrew their application. They didn't think DETC
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accreditation justifies the cost.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Just cuz you dont like it...... they still beat ALU wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not affiliated with Cal Southern in any way.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bozo, did you not notice that Abraham Lincoln
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Law school, which by the way has more graduates
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that passed the bar then does Cal Southern, did
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAILED the last cut and are no longer posted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the DETC website as an applicant school.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal Southern is getting accreditation based on many
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other factors not related to the bar pass rate.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is also based on great school of behavorial sciences
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progam which has been state approved for a long long time,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the school has been around since 1978 and they have strong
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financials.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They will be accredited when next announcement is made!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Paul wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you take the time to read the DETC standards. They're on the DETC website. Based on
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your poor research, you must be a Cal Southern law student!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in nature and level.”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you you think this means?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last year people were making the same claims about Lincoln. And what happened to then?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're a sales rep for Cal Southern you're not fooling anyone.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n 12/21/09, They will get it...........only passed 2 cuts wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They do not accredit law schools based on bar
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passage rates. California Southern U. will
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get DETC accreditation BEFORE June 2010.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALU faied the last cut which was done right before
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dec 2009, Cal Southern made the cut.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject Over !
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quoted directly from DETC's website. If DETC doen't follow its own rules then DETC
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accreditation must not be worth anything.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Cal Southern will get DETC wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are graduates of California Southern University / Southern California
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> University for Professional Studies that have passed the bar, not alot,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but DETC is not accreditating schools based on any law school's pass rates.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is based on being around since 1978, being well-established, solid
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financials, solid education programs and a number of other factors.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being a law school and its bar pass rate is NOT a factor, call DETC
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and they will tell you bar pass rate is not the accreditation deciding
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factor.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal Soutehr will be DETC accredited BEFORE next round which happens in June 2010, it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already has survived 2 critical cuts of other applicant schools.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DETC does look at bar pass rates:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in nature and level.”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Karen is correct and no Cal Southern students pass the bar I don't see how they
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be accredited. Same for Lincoln Concord has something like a 50&37; pass rate.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, DETC for Cal Southern University wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of the time frame they have had
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their application in the process and because in the past
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several months posted on the DETC website the number
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and names of active applicants have changed.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some schools either pulled out or were denied.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Southern University has already made
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 critical cuts.......they are a shoe in for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accreditation now!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. What makes you think that accreditation is near?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Cal Souther will get accredited wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Southern University used to be called
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Southern California University for Professional
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Studies and have been around since 1978 offering
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a variety of degree problems.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DETC doesnt give accreditation based on bar passage
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rates and most likely California Southern University
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be accredited BEFORE June 2010.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never heard of California Southern University. It looks like they were
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once called Southern Cal University Professional Studies. If so, I can't
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see anywhere on the Cal Bar website that the school has ever had anyone
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass the bar exam on the first try.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would DETC consider this?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, only 1 law school up for accreditation wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stunned?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALU doesnt deserve DETC accreditation.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually the law school that is very, very, close
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to DETC accrediation is California Southern University.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will be announced soon !
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, Larry wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stunned. It looks like you're right.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     
     

 
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