Re: No Cal Southern DETC Accreditation

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No you dumbfk, I don't have any information. I was just reading your stupid comments and couldn't resist to post. Why not wait
one month to see the results.

you are interested in truth my a$$. what other truth are you uncovering. did you get all truth about your mom? you sicko.

On 12/29/09, Larry wrote:
> My interest is the truth. Aren't you the one with the "inside" information?
>
> On 12/29/09, Larry the moron wrote:
>> what is your interest here? are you mentally sick or something?
>>
>> On 12/28/09, Larry wrote:
>>> I'll pass this thread along to DETC. I expect that the DETC Governors will be interested in what Cal Southern says
>>> that the Governors must do.
>>>
>>> On 12/28/09, it is based on many things wrote:
>>>> Because DETC does NOT accredit a degree or a degree program.
>>>>
>>>> they accredit the whole school.
>>>>
>>>> and Cal Southern will be accredited by June 2010.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/28/09, Larry wrote:
>>>>> There could be a very good reason why Cal Southern hasn't had anyone pass the bar on the first attempt in over ten
>>>>> years. Only a fool would enroll in such a program in the first place. So you can't blame Cal Southern.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, law schools are measured by how many graduates pass on the first attempt. And Cal Southern has none,
>>>>> zero. Concord has nearly 50&37; and taft not far behind.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea what DETC will do, but if they accredit Cal Southern it will be a low point in their history.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/26/09, They have some graduates that passed bar. wrote:
>>>>>> Larry Larry, Larry, I didnt say first time, I SAID AND I WILL SAY IT
>>>>>> AGAIN, CALIFORNIA SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE
>>>>>> 1978 AND HAS HAD A HUMBER OF GRADUATES PASS THE CALIFORNIA BAR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You made a weak attempt to try and make it sound like
>>>>>> the school never in its history had a graduate pass
>>>>>> the bar. It is more then a law school and DETC doesnt
>>>>>> grant accreditation based on bar passage rates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/26/09, Larry wrote:
>>>>>>> According to the Bar stats, no Cal Southern (SCUPS) graduate has passed the first time in over ten years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/26/09, Some have passed Cal Bar wrote:
>>>>>>>> They do have some graduates that have
>>>>>>>> passed the California Bar !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/25/09, Larry wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Even with DETC, why would anyone attend a school where none of its graduates can pass the bar exam?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/09, It will be accreditated wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> SCUPS was denied but Cal Southern University
>>>>>>>>>> is getting DETC before the new applicant list in June 2010
>>>>>>>>>> and that is just the way it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They survived (2) cuts and are on their way to DETC
>>>>>>>>>> accreditation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They have different management for the accreditation
>>>>>>>>>> and different programs and doctorates were removed
>>>>>>>>>> except for behavorial program and law program as
>>>>>>>>>> required for DETC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/24/09, Cal Southern Denied DETC wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Cal Southern (then SCUPS) is the only school in the past ten years to be denied accreditation by the
>>>>>>>>>>> DETC Council. It happened in 2003. Most schools (like Lincoln) simply withdraw their applications
>>>>>>>>>>> rather than fact a denial.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/22/09, Karen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not January? That's the next DETC Governor's meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/22/09, DETC accreditation for Cal not for ALU wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DETC accreditation by June 2010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal Southern's Dean can't even pass the California bar examination. Check the bar's website -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she's not a California attorney.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Karen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's interesting. Where did you get a copy of their financials? Are they posted on their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just contacted Lincoln and they withdrew their application. They didn't think DETC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accreditation justifies the cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Just cuz you dont like it...... they still beat ALU wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not affiliated with Cal Southern in any way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bozo, did you not notice that Abraham Lincoln
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Law school, which by the way has more graduates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that passed the bar then does Cal Southern, did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAILED the last cut and are no longer posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the DETC website as an applicant school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal Southern is getting accreditation based on many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other factors not related to the bar pass rate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is also based on great school of behavorial sciences
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progam which has been state approved for a long long time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the school has been around since 1978 and they have strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financials.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They will be accredited when next announcement is made!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/09, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you take the time to read the DETC standards. They're on the DETC website. Based on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your poor research, you must be a Cal Southern law student!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in nature and level.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you you think this means?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last year people were making the same claims about Lincoln. And what happened to then?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're a sales rep for Cal Southern you're not fooling anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n 12/21/09, They will get it...........only passed 2 cuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They do not accredit law schools based on bar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passage rates. California Southern U. will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get DETC accreditation BEFORE June 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALU faied the last cut which was done right before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dec 2009, Cal Southern made the cut.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject Over !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quoted directly from DETC's website. If DETC doen't follow its own rules then DETC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accreditation must not be worth anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Cal Southern will get DETC wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are graduates of California Southern University / Southern California
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> University for Professional Studies that have passed the bar, not alot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but DETC is not accreditating schools based on any law school's pass rates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is based on being around since 1978, being well-established, solid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financials, solid education programs and a number of other factors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being a law school and its bar pass rate is NOT a factor, call DETC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and they will tell you bar pass rate is not the accreditation deciding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal Soutehr will be DETC accredited BEFORE next round which happens in June 2010, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already has survived 2 critical cuts of other applicant schools.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/09, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DETC does look at bar pass rates:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The graduates’ success in passing outside independent assessments must be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent to other appropriately accredited education providers that are similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in nature and level.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Karen is correct and no Cal Southern students pass the bar I don't see how they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be accredited. Same for Lincoln Concord has something like a 50&37; pass rate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, DETC for Cal Southern University wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of the time frame they have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their application in the process and because in the past
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several months posted on the DETC website the number
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and names of active applicants have changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some schools either pulled out or were denied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Southern University has already made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 critical cuts.......they are a shoe in for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accreditation now!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. What makes you think that accreditation is near?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Cal Souther will get accredited wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Southern University used to be called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Southern California University for Professional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Studies and have been around since 1978 offering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a variety of degree problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DETC doesnt give accreditation based on bar passage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rates and most likely California Southern University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be accredited BEFORE June 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/09, Karen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never heard of California Southern University. It looks like they were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once called Southern Cal University Professional Studies. If so, I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see anywhere on the Cal Bar website that the school has ever had anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass the bar exam on the first try.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would DETC consider this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, only 1 law school up for accreditation wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stunned?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALU doesnt deserve DETC accreditation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually the law school that is very, very, close
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to DETC accrediation is California Southern University.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will be announced soon !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, Larry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stunned. It looks like you're right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>