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Re: LL.M degree will not get you bar admission
Posted by idiot police on 9/12/08

    Education is what you make of it. I forgot most of the
    lectures I attended. However that girl in the front row
    is still on my mind. Most profs are hornblowing ego
    maniacs. Whatever floats your boat. Choose a school
    that you enjoy. The idea of a TV debate ranks up
    there as a top ten idiotic suggestion. Who friggen cares?

    Idiot Police

    On 9/12/08, Finally ABA resolved wrote:
    > Finally someone admitted an accredited ABA JD degree
    > is a superior legal education to a degree from a
    > law school operated out of a guy's house !!
    >
    > On 9/12/08, twallstbroker wrote:
    >> Enough about the "ABA JD" vs. "Distance Learning Degree" debate
    >>
    >> I'm tired reading the rants and tirades on both sides.
    >>
    >> Neither side will capitulate....that's a given truth.
    >>
    >> The "ABA JD" route is not the only route to a career in the field of law. It doesn't matter what
    >> the "superior" degree is educationally or if some dimwit wants to have a useless debate on TV on the
    >> merits of what a purported legal education should be. It only matters what the State Committee of Bar
    >> Examiners allows in the State of California. They set the educational requirements ......PERIOD.
    >>
    >> If an ABA JD graduate is jealous that a person with can further themselves with an either an online,
    >> distance learning or correspondence degree in law, then so be it. Let them eat cake! It isn't even
    >> worth debating what a 3rd person "feels" or "wants". Those are phantom issues. The State of California
    >> has approved distance learning and that is the end of the argument....PERIOD.
    >>
    >> P.S. If you don't believe me...go to the State Bar website & see 14 different online registered schools
    >> authorized to provide legal education in the State of CA.
    >>
    >> I make no comparisons on the quality of an ABA vs. Distance learning degree. There is no debate. Anyone
    >> that possibly could choose & attend an ABA school should go there. An ABA JD is a more sound investment
    >> and will no doubt provide a better legal education than distance learning (as it should be).....PERIOD.
    >>
    >> P.S. You have to get something for dropping six figures on it!
    >>
    >> However, that is not an option for all students of law & nor should there be a monopoly to discourage
    >> otherwise. If a person decides to pursue an available, cost-efficient, legal method to enter & practice
    >> the field of law than so be it.....PERIOD.
    >>
    >> Let's move on to bigger and better issues
    >>
    >> Non-ABA JD Graduate
    >> twallstbroker
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    >> (FYLSE passed 1st attempt, MPRE passed 1st attempt, Bar Candidate 09)
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    >> On 9/12/08, Go ABA Go wrote:
    >>> Depends on that ABA school you go to.
    >>>
    >>> ABA is still by far the superior way
    >>> to go. Regionally accredited, ABA accredited,
    >>> accepted as gold standard in all 50 states.
    >>>
    >>> You can go to medical school in carribean
    >>> or some run down school in 3rd world country
    >>> or you can go to U.S. medical school which
    >>> is gold standard.
    >>>
    >>> Sorry I support the gold standard.....cant
    >>> go wrong accepted everywhere.
    >>>
    >>> On 9/12/08, Crown Prince wrote:
    >>>> That depends. If you have no wife/husband or kids, live close to an ABA law school, and like to
    >>>> be in six figure debt by the time you graduate, go for it.
    >>>>
    >>>> For other intelligent people, CA DL law schools are an option.
    >>>>
    >>>> Take it from someone who spent six weeks at a tier 3 ABA---they are not all they cracked up to be.
    >>>> My crim law professor opined about how serial rapists should not be put to death. I disagreed, and
    >>>> didn't want to listen to that hogwash. You can have the ABA and their professors, who according to
    >>>> www.lawschool.com, support Obama 20 to 1. I am not in a race to be a community organizer. Thanks
    >>>> anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Crown Prince
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    >>>> On 9/12/08, GO ABA GO wrote:
    >>>>> There are a number of ABA law schools
    >>>>> with part time evening programs.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ABA is best choice, the degree is regionally accredited
    >>>>> in most cases, and it is ABA accredited J.D. therefore can be
    >>>>> use automatically in all 50 states.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Some California ABA part time programs are priced reasonable.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 9/12/08, Crown Prince wrote:
    >>>>>> Your key words being "probably" and "appears." The only way to know is to write and ask the bar.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Truthfully, its better and cheaper to just take the CA DL route at West Coast or Concord or
    >>>>>> anywhere else, depending on what you want and what you can afford. However, to each their own, I
    >>>>>> always say.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Crown Prince
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    >>>>>> On 9/11/08, steve wrote:
    >>>>>>> Hi Crown Prince,
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> If one has an advanced graduate route UK LLB, the CA Bar will probably require the candidate
    >>>>>>> to study at an ABA or CA accredited law school for two years in order to qualify for the CA
    >>>>>>> bar exam.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 9/05/08, Crown Prince wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Well said. There is no "easy" way. There is only one loophole that will allow you to finish
    >>>>>>>> faster than the four year correspondence law route in California (3, if timed correctly).
    >>>>>>>> Though I have certainly not seen anyone do this, from the California rules it appears that
    >>>>>>>> you can get an LLB from London External under the advanced graduate route. The LLB will then
    >>>>>>>> take you two years. You can then get an LLM from St. Thomas or another school which offers
    >>>>>>> an
    >>>>>>>> ABA LLM. Anything short of this will not work. In fact, I am not even sure it will work. I
    >>>>>>> do
    >>>>>>>> not reccomend this for a few reasons. First of all, the external LLB does not cover all of
    >>>>>>>> the California subjects. Second, I don't know anyone who has done this. Maybe I am wrong in
    >>>>>>>> my idea, and welcome someone to tell me I am wrong.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I agree with the previous poster that unless he/she/whatever they are can produce a written,
    >>>>>>>> signed document from someone of authority at the D.C. bar, then this is really all just
    >>>>>>>> wasted time.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> There is no easy way to become a lawyer. There are non-traditional ways, but no easy ways.
    >>>>>>>> Take it from someone who has faced an uphill battle: it is very possible to become a lawyer,
    >>>>>>>> but it is no easy feat (I am saying that, and I am only halfway there).
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> If something seems too good to be true...
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Crown Prince
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    >>>>>>>> On 9/05/08, -- wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> On 9/05/08, steve wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> The followings were the question I asked DC and the response I got:
    >>>>>>>>>>
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    >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Non-ABA-approved law school J.D. + 26 semester hours in tested subjects from
    >>>>>>>>>> ABA-approved law school
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> To Whom It May Concern:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I understand that the above combination can qualify one to sit for the DC Bar. And
    >>>>>>>>>> under Rule 46 (b) (8) (iii), it seems like the tax law subjects are now qualify.
    >>>>>>>>>> So let's say I have a J.D. from a non-ABA law school. And if I complete a ABA-approved
    >>>>>>>>>> LL.M. in taxation and only with 26 units of tax classes, can I qualify to sit for the DC
    >>>>>>>>>> Bar?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> No. You need to have 26 semester hours in tested subjects as provided for by our
    >>>>>>>>>> Rules. While a basic tax course will likely be accepted, the bar examination does not
    >>>>>>>>>> test on advanced tax matters. You need to have a combination of subjects that are
    >>>>>>>>>> tested in the examination.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> The DC 26 credit policy exception is primarily aimed at ABA students that completed their
    >>>>>>>>> first year then dropped out. It is a very generous second chance for them to finish at a
    >>>>>>>>> non-ABA school and sit for the bar in DC. Unfortunately, awhile back a few misguided
    >>>>>>>>> posters on this board tried to turn it into a loop-hole for DL graduates. It is exactly
    >>>>>>>>> what the response says it is. Thank you for writing the DC bar and sharing the above
    >>>>>>>>> response.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Like it or not -- except for CA there is no way around an ABA JD for first time bar exam
    >>>>>>>>> applicants.

     
     

 
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