Re: Denied Illinois FOID card

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Yes you Guys/Gals with the pooled tips, tinfoiled caps and mercury fillings
comments you are quite the comedians. I hope this isn't demonstrative of
your attitudes when you advise clients. Sure some clients may have some
issues, but they all deserve respect and to be treated with dignity. Legal
advising is serious business, for serious people practitioners.

Mr. Denied Illinois FOID card:
You should look at all your options, seek the advice of an attorney. Worst
case scenario go West or some place that may be more tolerant to your
situation. Read the gun laws in those states, read in between the lines and
contact an attorney in the other jurisditions. Few if any jurisdictions will
allow you to have a firearm if an "active" protection order exist or charges
are pending. Seek counsel from a competant Attorney it will be money well
spent. Good luck with your situation.

On 10/01/07, Prairie Dawg wrote:
> It's all about pooling tips and burying them underneath the Statue of
> Limations on her Horse Felonee. Your aluminum foil cap will avail you
> nothing, sir, as the signals come in through the mercury in your fillings.
>
> We allus thought Grampaw's super heterodyne circuits were misaligned so we
> pulled his teeth out. Is it ok if we pay fer it with pooled tips?
>
>
> On 10/01/07, Ozarks Lawyer wrote:
>>
>> It's more complicated than that. The answer is ... sort of, sometimes
> but
>> not always, yes and no, in some circumstances but not in others, and of
>> course that catch-all response "it depends."
>>
>> But I do know this: They will take my aluminum-foil-lined cap when they
>> pry it from my cold dead fingers. We must protect ourselves from alien
>> thought-control waves. Wake up, America!!!! Can't you see what's going
> on?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/01/07, Diller wrote:
>>> In the end of the argument, and everything has been said, the federal
>>> government has the last word, and power to over ride any individual
>>> state law, or State constitution. The Federal government controls
>>> States; they just let each political leader of each state believe that
>>> they are in control of their State. In reality the Federal government
>>> can step in at anytime to muscle its power, if they don’t approve of
>>> something.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/23/07, PA wrote:
>>>> I wouldn’t put it past republicans, nor would I put it past Illinois
>>>> Judicial Inquiry Board to let Schick slide through the system as a
>>>> favor to a friend. Take a look at what’s going on with Former
>>>> Republican Governor George Ryan. He should have been put in prison a
>>>> long time ago, but with political helpers, he is still not serving
>>>> his sentence for racketeering and fraud. Any other common citizen
>>>> would be behind bars right now. I think the point this Hogan guy is
>>>> trying to make is that; this Schick fellow broke the law when he
>>>> didn’t give him a hearing, before they took his guns. I read the
>>>> Illinois law and it dose say that he is entitled to a hearing first
>>>> before they can confiscate those guns; there is no question about
>>>> that. As far as the Constitution goes, Illinois has adopted those
>>>> same rules under the second amendment in the Illinois constitution,
>>>> so the right to bare arms has been infringed. You need to get the FBI
>>>> to investigate this crime against you; he shouldn’t be allowed to
>>>> escape from committing a crime against your rights.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/22/07, JR wrote:
>>>>> 08/22/2007 Your case may involve a federal question, thus you may
>>>>> be able to file a federal suit against the Judge personally or
>>>>> maybe the TRO state law has not been constitutionally tested yet.
>>>>> If you can show that the judge violated your constitutional or
>>>>> civil rights, or that he discriminated against you for some other
>>>>> reason "under the color of law". Maybe the TRO law in your state
>>>>> is unconstitutional as written or in the way it's dicriminately
>>>>> applied.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's relatively cheap to file a federal suit, if you represent
>>>>> yourself "pro se". But you have to know what your doing. You
>>>>> should consult a local attorney about the specifics about your
>>>>> case. Note that Judges will frequently violate the procedures of
>>>>> even their own states TRO statutes, rules and procedures, because
>>>>> they can and because few people truely challenge them, but file a
>>>>> federal suit and you'll get their attention, but you won't make
>>>>> any friends. Consult a local attorney.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as buying a firearm, rifle, pistol or shotgun. Unless there
>>>>> is a current/present Protection/Restraining Order (TRO) against
>>>>> you, you may or not pass the Brady background check as the
>>>>> previous writer indicates. Either way, many states provide for
>>>>> private firearms purchases, this may be legal in your case and in
>>>>> your state, consult a local attorney for legal advise.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the judge has committed some sort of "Ethics" violation while
>>>>> adjudicating your case, you may be able to file a complaint with
>>>>> the state bar association. Exp. while a judge probably does not
>>>>> have to provide you information about how you should not proceed
>>>>> in you case, if cannot "lie to you", mislead or provide you false
>>>>> information. Consult a lawyer in your jurisdiction.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/22/07, -- wrote:
>>>>>> You will never get anywhere with your judicial conspiracy theory-
>>>>>> -it makes you sound paranoid. Just reapply and see what
>>>>>> happens, that is the best way to challenge a denial. You should
>>>>>> go to a local gun shop and try to buy a cheap hand gun. If you
>>>>>> are denied you will be given the opportunity to discover the
>>>>>> reason and challenge the denial. See 28 CFR 25.1 If you
>>>>>> currently have a TRO or past domestic violence charge you will
>>>>>> not be able to legally own a gun--don't even try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW The second amendment to the US Constitution does not apply
>>>>>> to states. States may enact whatever gun control they see fit
>>>>>> to. It's possible a state could ban guns altogether but that has
>>>>>> never been tested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/22/07, Hogan wrote:
>>>>>>> Here is my update on Judge Mitchell K Schick of the Coles
>>>>>>> county court house in Charleston Illinois. Nothing that I know
>>>>>>> has happen to this judge yet he is still judging people, but I
>>>>>>> am still hoping that somebody dose there job in the government
>>>>>>> and will do something about this crime against my rights. I
>>>>>>> found out yesterday that Tony William is the Illinois Judicial
>>>>>>> Inquiry Board chair and legal member; he is from Charleston
>>>>>>> Illinois, born and raised there and he attended school at
>>>>>>> Eastern Illinois University in Charleston Illinois. Mitchell K
>>>>>>> Schick is from Charleston and both men have practice law as
>>>>>>> lawyers in this area. Tony Williams’s son Rick works for the
>>>>>>> Judicial Inquiry Board as well. There are other members from
>>>>>>> the board that have gone to school close to Charleston at the
>>>>>> U
>>>>>>> of I. I would say that that it is quite weird that the Board
>>>>>>> refused to do anything to judge Mitchell K Schick, even though
>>>>>>> I had solid evidence and presented the law to them. They even
>>>>>>> wrote me back and said that they wouldn’t give me a reason
>>>>>> why,
>>>>>>> but they did say that they were not saying that my case did
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> have merit, just that they were considering the case closed.
>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> you tell me, dose this all sound strange to you? I can’t
>>>>>>> believe that Schick and Williams do not know each other, if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> consider they both have ties to Charleston Illinois. All I am
>>>>>>> saying is this is very strange if you ask me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/13/07, NRA MAN wrote:
>>>>>>>> All I can tell you is that, There are People in the
>>>>>>>> government that want to take guns away from the common
>>>>>>>> person. Are rights are beinging violated by these government
>>>>>>>> crooks. Read this: Republican Judge Mitchell K. Schick of the
>>>>>>>> Coles county court house in Charleston illinois, has
>>>>>>>> illegally violated general assembly law 14.5 (a) concerning
>>>>>>>> firearms; he has violated Illinois, and federal
>>>>>>>> constitutional laws and his oath to protect the constitution,
>>>>>>>> which is an act of treason. I have notified the Fbi of this
>>>>>>>> matter. Judge Shick is trying to cover this matter up, hoping
>>>>>>>> it will go away. I have solid evedince documentaion from the
>>>>>>>> Court house, that provides the proof that he illegally seized
>>>>>>>> my two guns without having any reason to do this illegal act.
>>>>>>>> I had no criminal recored anywhere recorded, and he gave me
>>>>>>>> no trial to defend myself in court stated by the law. Judge
>>>>>>>> Mitchell Schick took them before I even had the chance to
>>>>>>>> show up for my court date to defend myself, which is a
>>>>>>>> violation of 14.5 (a) Illinois law. He ordered this action to
>>>>>>>> seize my guns violating every law written to protect the
>>>>>>>> common citezen. Judge Shick is working above the law, and
>>>>>>>> must be accountable for his actions.